Payton

I know 671 and 871 are based on the old Detroit Diesel 671 and v871 engines. The 71 being the cylinder size and the 6,8 or 16 for that matter means the number of cylinders. What about a wieand 177 and 250 or Holley/B&M 174 and 250? Are the related to the 53 series engine or the smaller 71 series. I know DD made them as small as 353 and 271. I have owned these engines as stationary power units.

Thanks for any help.
Mark

Griff

The 177 or 250 number is the measurement of air in cubic inches that the blower pushes through in one rotation. A 671 pushes through 426 cubic inches.

Payton

Ok, so a 420 mega Blower is the same as a 671.

rmbuilder

The numerical designation for the original GM Roots type blowers were based on the engine displacement the blower was designed for.

Example;

6-71 blowers were designed for:
6 (cylinders) 71 (CID per cylinder)
This, however, does not signify the actual displacement per revolution of the supercharger. The actual displacement per revolution is determined by the rotor length and diameter.


The data for GM based Roots blowers are:-

6:71 small diameter
Rotor dia=5.505", length=14.975", displacement per full turn of rotor=339CI.

6:71 big diameter
Rotor dia=5.778", length=14.975", displacement per full turn of rotor=411CI.

8:71
Rotor dia=5.778", length=15.905", displacement per full turn of rotor=436CI.

10:71
Rotor dia=5.778", length=17.000", displacement per full turn of rotor=466CI.

14:71
Rotor dia=5.778", length=19.000", displacement per full turn of rotor=521CI

This is theoretical displacement.

Retro or high helix will change this considerably.

A worn blower will reduce this a little.

A very good tight new blower and a Teflon stripped blower should be about the same.

Bob

Payton

So, when you get a Wieand or BDS 671 blower, How do you know if it's the small diameter or large? You are only talking a 1/4" diferance .

rmbuilder

Payton,

The .273" difference is relative, as seen in the 72 CFM increase per revolution over the smaller diameter rotor. The Weiand 6-71 is the 5.778" diameter rotor.

Bob

Payton

What makes the difference of going to dual carbs from one bigger one? Proper fuel distribution with more air? I see the 250 is availible with a single or dual.
Would you need a dual carb setup with a 671 blower if you are spinning it slow for only 3# of boost? Or is the total cfm of air goingto be to high for a single to do the job.

CcanDo

We know that by changing pulley ratio,boost pressure will change...assuming 5# boost is to be the magic number,that is obtainable with pulley ratio.

However,with regards to overdrive vs. underdrive one must consider available boost delivery.Hence,SIZE of the required supercharger...Some prefer a model that can be underdriven...The underdriven ratio provides max. pressure at about the same engine rpm, or just before, full timing occurs...Thereafter,the pressure gradient is flat through the increasing engine RPM range.

f311fr1

I ran a single Dominator carb worked by Nickerson on a B&M 250 on 468 CID. Worked very well.

Griff

rmb, Thanks for the education. I did not know the exact specifics.

What about the 177 and 250 series blowers???? Are they pushing the 177 and 250 ci of air, theoretically????


Yes a B&M 420 is essentially the same size as a 6-71.

Almost everybody, runs a single carb on the 250/256 blowers. The larger blowers need dual carbs for better fuel distribution and for more fuel.