Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
up grading the 500 EFI....to run 8 lbs boost >

up grading the 500 EFI....to run 8 lbs boost

Notices

up grading the 500 EFI....to run 8 lbs boost

Thread Tools
 
Old 12-01-2007, 09:44 AM
  #11  
Registered
 
PatriYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Waterford,MI
Posts: 2,867
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The alum. heads are worth about 100 hp n/a and about 150 hp with 8 lbs of boost. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?

Last edited by PatriYacht; 12-01-2007 at 10:33 AM.
PatriYacht is offline  
Old 12-01-2007, 12:52 PM
  #12  
Registered
 
jdnca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: KY
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=Chris Sunkin;2355212] My point is this- He's not going to be near the 800 hp mark with 8psi on pump gas and probably will be turning this motor about 6000 rpm. QUOTE]

You are simply wrong here, he should be well over 800hp with 8# of chilled boost...even with stock GM heads ~@5800rpm. . If he's still running the stock 500EFI stick, that is the limiting factor, slide a Crane 651 in and its there...actually closer to 850 @6100. We did it on a set of 500's as above with 8# of non chilled "roots" boost and carbs. still together and still going strong....
jdnca1 is offline  
Old 12-01-2007, 04:46 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,495
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

You are simply wrong here, he should be well over 800hp with 8# of chilled boost...even with stock GM heads ~@5800rpm. . If he's still running the stock 500EFI stick, that is the limiting factor, slide a Crane 651 in and its there...actually closer to 850 @6100. We did it on a set of 500's as above with 8# of non chilled "roots" boost and carbs. still together and still going strong....[/QUOTE]

8 lbs boost on 8.75 CR pistons and no intercooler? 850 hp on pump gas?
Chris Sunkin is offline  
Old 12-01-2007, 06:21 PM
  #14  
Registered
 
jdnca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: KY
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

8 lbs boost on 8.75 CR pistons and no intercooler? 850 hp on pump gas?[/QUOTE]


Yes sir, 8-71 blower shop at that on 93octane. I'ts definately "on the edge", but the cylinder pressures are under control and its a big blower turing slow...not for everyone.

Last edited by jdnca1; 12-01-2007 at 06:26 PM.
jdnca1 is offline  
Old 12-01-2007, 09:34 PM
  #15  
'05 Concept SF23
VIP Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Gladeville, TN
Posts: 1,722
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

I made 825 on Nickerson's dyno with Merlin tall deck 540, Hampton 10-71 and Merlin CI heads. 8 lbs boost, no intercooler and 8.75 CR. Dean did the twin 850's. I backed the boost down to 6 lbs when I put them in the boat. Ran good for several years until i went back to NA and EFI.
f311fr1 is offline  
Old 12-01-2007, 10:58 PM
  #16  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,495
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by f311fr1
I made 825 on Nickerson's dyno with Merlin tall deck 540, Hampton 10-71 and Merlin CI heads. 8 lbs boost, no intercooler and 8.75 CR. Dean did the twin 850's. I backed the boost down to 6 lbs when I put them in the boat. Ran good for several years until i went back to NA and EFI.
On 91 octane and 35 degrees of timing lead? Few more cubes in there but that's only 50 or 60 hp.
Chris Sunkin is offline  
Old 12-02-2007, 12:44 AM
  #17  
Registered
 
Back4More's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Lake Michigan
Posts: 6,627
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

13.5:1 final CR....that would be over the edge.
Back4More is offline  
Old 12-02-2007, 11:51 AM
  #18  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: PA and MD
Posts: 1,461
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Get AFR 305 or 315 heads, ARP head studs, cometic gaskets and RMBuilder to do a cam for you and then you need someone like Tyler Crocker to dyno it and reprogram the computer. How much power do you want? Stock engine and 8 pounds will give you 700-725 HP. With heads and cam and 8 pounds you will have 850HP and if you build a 540 you can see 950+ HP. What drive are you going to break?
cobra marty is offline  
Old 12-02-2007, 12:26 PM
  #19  
Registered
 
jdnca1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: KY
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Back4More
13.5:1 final CR....that would be over the edge.
8.75:1 with 8# of boost is right there....
jdnca1 is offline  
Old 12-02-2007, 01:13 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,495
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I tend to like to look at what other successful builders are doing and follow that direction. When you look at Sterling, Zul, Cobra and others, their engines making the kind of power you're talking about are 100 cubic inches larger and constructed out of the absolute top-of-the-shelf components.

Now I've heard the argument about how Merc is so ultra conservative but it seems to be a trend among those builders that have been around a while. Unless you have an unlimited budget, are willing to own 3 sets of engines and do preventative majors on a regular basis, reliability becomes part of the equation.
Chris Sunkin is offline  


Quick Reply: up grading the 500 EFI....to run 8 lbs boost


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.