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Old 03-29-2002, 03:31 PM
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Question Battery wiring????'s HELP!!!

Working on the Magnum and am confused about the batteries.

Single engine, one alternator
Two batteries

Ground 1 connected to block near starter
Positive 1 connected to starter

Ground 2 connected to block near water pump
Positive 2 connected to positive 1 (Is this normal????)

Alternator output wired to amp guage that does not move, maybe a bad gauge or maybe a bad alternator. Who knows? How do I find out?

There is no 1-2-off-both switch (or any other switch either)
I have not found an isolator

How many volts do I have?
Is this normal?
What all is wrong with this (if anything)?

The boat cranks and starts properly - have not tested for long periods of time though.

I am going near a West Marine tomorrow, so quick responses are most appreciated.

The thing that makes me mad is that most of my tools are in storage and are DIFFICULT to get to.
 
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If the batteries are next to each other you can go negative-negative-block and positive-switch, postive-switch with the single switch going to the starter. If they are apart you can go negative-block, negative-block and positive-switch-starter, positive-switch-starter.

You will have 24volts if it goes negative-positive-block and positive-negative-starter

...I think.

If you have a clock, I'd also advise wiring that off the hot side of the battery switch. That way you don't have to always reset the clock. Just disconnect the battery over winter to prevent a excessive drain.
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You have 12 volts with twice the amperage as both batteries are connected together.
It is a good idea to isolate them by adding a battery switch for two batteries and run one one battery at a time, that way you have a good battery if you run one down.
Use Cord's connection method - negative-negative-block and positive-switch, postive-switch with the single switched wire going to the starter.
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OK, so I have twice the amperage. That is a good thing.

How about this? Any problem doing it with a single 1-2-both-off? Other than me forgetting to use the switch?

 
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Unless you are running a cruiser, I'd drop the isolator. That device is meant to automatically separate one battery which is reserved for starting. If I am correct, that battery will not be charged-hense the battery charger. That charger will run off line voltage which means that you'll need either a genset or some other 120v source. This would be a acceptable setup if you have more than 2 batteries or have dedicated deep cycle batteries.

Once you take out the charger and isolator, you basically have the layout that we've been describing. I'd recommend running a dual purpose deep cycle/starting battery. Yea the battery costs more and cant do either job as well as a dedicated battery, but they are much more flexible and versatile.
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Here's what I ended up with:

A 1-both-2-off lockable switch with the alternator field disconnect.

Battery combiner. This thing is supposed to allow both batteries to charge at the same time, without letting battery 1 draw down battery 2 if battery 1 goes bad. If it doesn't work, then I fell for West Marine's advertising "advice".

One more positive cable.

I think the charger is there just to keep the batteries topped off. It is a low, low amperage maintenance type. Plugging the boat in should always keep the batteries ready to go - theoretically.\

Thanks for the advice, you guys really helped me out especially since my boat wiring book is in storage, right next to my tools.
 
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