Weiand 177 boost??
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According to some of the charts i have been looking at, and if my math is correct, I should see 7.5-8psi with the pulley combo i am running. However, I only see about 5 psi.
I am running a fairly large roller cam, so not sure how much that should effect it. Sounds more like its time for a refresh on the blowers. Not sure how many hours are on them. My ratio is 2.3:1 with the current pulleys on a 454CI..
I am running a fairly large roller cam, so not sure how much that should effect it. Sounds more like its time for a refresh on the blowers. Not sure how many hours are on them. My ratio is 2.3:1 with the current pulleys on a 454CI..
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According to some of the charts i have been looking at, and if my math is correct, I should see 7.5-8psi with the pulley combo i am running. However, I only see about 5 psi.
I am running a fairly large roller cam, so not sure how much that should effect it. Sounds more like its time for a refresh on the blowers. Not sure how many hours are on them. My ratio is 2.3:1 with the current pulleys on a 454CI..
I am running a fairly large roller cam, so not sure how much that should effect it. Sounds more like its time for a refresh on the blowers. Not sure how many hours are on them. My ratio is 2.3:1 with the current pulleys on a 454CI..
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Boost is measured on what the engine is not using, sounds about rite for a 177 and i wouldnt go much more then what you have with out innercoolers..It also wouldnt be a bad idea to send them out for a refresh,pay a little now or a bunch later if one were to self distruct..
Not really looking for more power. If a rebuild will allow me to still make 5psi, but running a larger pulley, and not spinning the blower as fast, I'll be happy with that. Although some intercoolers and 8psi sounds more fun....
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I was overdriven at about 2.55:1 on my 525SC with a smaller top pulley and saw just shy of 8#. At 2:1 stock it is 5.5# of boost.
Realize that boost pressure is also dependent on load. Rev the boat in neutral with no load and boost pressure will not move much. When I first got the Pantera, the boost showed a little more than 6#. The propslip was very high. I lowered the drive an inch deeper, reduced propslip from 25% to 17% and boost instantly went to almost 8#.
A switch to a bigger roller cam made little to no difference in the boost pressures.
Keep in mind that the stock 525SC's only had 7.5:1 compression and that is why you can run higher boost on them.
Realize that boost pressure is also dependent on load. Rev the boat in neutral with no load and boost pressure will not move much. When I first got the Pantera, the boost showed a little more than 6#. The propslip was very high. I lowered the drive an inch deeper, reduced propslip from 25% to 17% and boost instantly went to almost 8#.
A switch to a bigger roller cam made little to no difference in the boost pressures.
Keep in mind that the stock 525SC's only had 7.5:1 compression and that is why you can run higher boost on them.
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If your cam is not a good blower profile cam you can just blowing the boost right out of the exhaust, those blowers do not like lots of overlap and do like cams ground on a 114 centerline as well...Rob
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You have aluminum heads which probably flow pretty good. Boost is the lower on good flowing heads as they have less restriction. I think a refresh on those blowers is just bearings and seals. The rotors are straight extruded metal, so I am not sure if you can set them up tighter to have less leak by. I own a 177 but am not an expert on blowers.
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177's have the B&M style teflon rotor seals, no adjustment. The Blower shop is about $1000. each for a rebuild which is seals, bearings and a few other wearable parts which they return all the parts back to you, plus shipping it both ways. If your having fun with those maybe a step up to 250's or 420's whould give you a fix.
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177's have the B&M style teflon rotor seals, no adjustment. The Blower shop is about $1000. each for a rebuild which is seals, bearings and a few other wearable parts which they return all the parts back to you, plus shipping it both ways. If your having fun with those maybe a step up to 250's or 420's whould give you a fix.
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If you have a 3" top pulley, 7" lower and 454 cid you psi should have a threoretical 8.26#. I'd guess your top pulley is slipping. Touch it soon after a hard run and see how hot the pulley is to tell about slippage.
I too have the 177 mercruiser blowers and they do not have the teflon seals.
I too have the 177 mercruiser blowers and they do not have the teflon seals.
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