Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
502 repower/bravoIII 2.0 28P's question >

502 repower/bravoIII 2.0 28P's question

Notices

502 repower/bravoIII 2.0 28P's question

Thread Tools
 
Old 05-12-2002, 12:37 PM
  #1  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Candlewood Lake, CT
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 502 repower/bravoIII 2.0 28P's question

The boat is a '98 Formula 252LS 7.4MPI/310 bravoIII 2.0 with 28P's and at WOT pulled 4200-4300rpm's at an indicated 56-56mph.

The Formula dealer guide book lists the boat with 26P's at 53-56mph at 4800rpm's and it lists the optional 502MPI with the 28P's. So I concluded that I'm overpropped and ready for a 502MPI transplant... which I did this past winter.

It's all good, she starts, idles, run strong right to the 5000rpm recommended WOT at an indicated 65mph+ (speedo 65 max), wow, what a difference 105HP's made! That was with 2 people and about 85 gallons of fuel onboard.

My questions now is if I'm underpropped? The boat pulls stongly right to 5000rpm's and it feels like it wants to go beyond and there still is some throttle left at that speed.

Is it OK to go beyond 5000rpm's and see if she goes to when the rev limiter kicks in?

Mercruiser literature lists with 502 with a bravoIII with a 1.5 reduction vs my 2.0 that came with the 7.4MPI.

Should I look into changing gear ratios or maybe 30P's... or just have my 28P's re-pitched?

It's all good, mon

Jamal
S4Hadi is offline  
Old 05-12-2002, 04:16 PM
  #2  
Offshoreonly Advertiser
Offshoreonly Advertiser
 
Mbam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pompano Beach FL, USA
Posts: 2,434
Received 168 Likes on 96 Posts
Default

Sounds like you go a good result.

Re-pitching more than 1 inch is not possible. Yuo can see if it will actually hit the rev limniter, but do not hold it there. The Brsavo III props come in both a cupped and uncupeed version, do you know which one you have? Changin to the cupped veriosn will drop you about 200 RPM.

The dirrefanc betwee 2.0 and 1.5 drive ratio would reperesnt a 33% change in pitch, that is 34" form the 26's yuo mention, so something is wrong with this info.
Mbam is offline  
Old 05-12-2002, 05:00 PM
  #3  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Candlewood Lake, CT
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Marc,

Are you implying that my 2.0 reduction is correct for my application?

I do not have a Formula dealer near by, but I have looked at some Cobolts and Chapparels with the duo props and the all have the 2.0 ratio with 26P's on them.

How can one check to see if my props a of the cupped variety? The part numbers are : 48-823670 and 48-823669. How much difference in rpm's would re-pitching do... abviously it is less costly to do that than to purchase 2 new props.

Any input is appreciated,

Thanks

Jamal
S4Hadi is offline  
Old 05-13-2002, 03:59 PM
  #4  
Registered
 
Nordicflame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Layton, Utah
Posts: 1,546
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Cool

The next step up in gearing for your B3 would be 1.81:1 and not 1.5:1. I went from 1.81:1 to 2:1 and from 26's to 28's and the boat was much more responsive. Keep your 2:1 ratio and send your 28's to Bronson Hill. They will take 200-300 rpm out of your props and gain you a little speed if your hitting the rev limiter. Merc also makes 30's if this were not enough.
Nordicflame is offline  
Old 05-13-2002, 05:44 PM
  #5  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Candlewood Lake, CT
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the input. At what RPM's should the rev limiter kick in on the 502MAG? What is involved with the changing of the drive ratio?

I was thinking to maybe wait with the re-pitching the props until I do some more mods to the motor... it's so tempting. I'll do some more testing like how a couple more passenger affect the WOT rpm's.

Jamal
S4Hadi is offline  
Old 05-13-2002, 09:57 PM
  #6  
RickA
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default 502 Repower

Jamal

I just finished a repower with a 502 Mag in my 22ft Crownline. I also changed gears in my Bravo 3 from 2.20 to 1.81 and 26 pitch props.

I've only had the boat out twice and the results are as follows...68 mph (GPS) @ 5050 RPM which is right on the stock Merc rev limiter.

Crownlines are far from a performance boat with their hooked hulls, but 68mph (GPS) is not too shabby.

Last edited by RickA; 05-13-2002 at 10:01 PM.
 
Old 05-14-2002, 07:13 PM
  #7  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Candlewood Lake, CT
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Very interesting, my friend has a 22.5ft Crownline that he special ordered with a 502MAG... his dealer special ordered 30P's for his boat. Not sure what the drive ratio is... this duo prop bravoIII certainly performs well, he can peg his speedo (indicated) all the way.

Anyone out there than can explain the duo prop/drive ratio relationship. How come there seems to be no mention of the pitch, only the diameter when people refer to the duo props?
S4Hadi is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BajaBennett
General Boating Discussion
3
07-24-2007 09:59 PM
Robinls05
General Q & A
4
05-11-2005 08:28 PM
Laktrash
General Q & A
4
03-16-2004 05:18 PM
Kokopelli
General Q & A
2
01-18-2004 02:56 PM
Firewalker
General Q & A
4
09-13-2003 08:07 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Quick Reply: 502 repower/bravoIII 2.0 28P's question


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.