Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Cheap 496 mag upgrades (375hp) >

Cheap 496 mag upgrades (375hp)

Notices

Cheap 496 mag upgrades (375hp)

Thread Tools
 
Old 01-07-2011, 11:58 AM
  #31  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,449
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SDFever
That's really kinda high (12K) if you're just getting forged bottom end and using same heads etc..

I thought the same thing.....for $12K you could get the Raylar BCK-103 (With Heads)....have the work done at about any shop of your choice and be close to getting Dana headers.....might be closer to $14K. But that route your at ~550 HP.....175 more than now.
Baja_man is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 12:00 PM
  #32  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Hey

Originally Posted by JMS322
Cheap
Reliable
Fast

You can only pick 2, and you WON'T have the 3rd.
I love it! Let's start a new engine shop and have a "numbered" menu just like a fast food restaurant.

Call it "Pick Two".

Uh, yeah I'd like cheap and fast please. Okay, That'll be $3200 plus another 15K after it blows up. Please pull around to the next window....

LOL!!
SDFever is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 12:14 PM
  #33  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 5,825
Received 607 Likes on 275 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Wet-N-Wild
SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS THE BEST BET IS TO JUST GET A LABBED PROP AND CALL IT DONE TILL I'M READY TO TARE THE MOTER DOWN AND REBUILD IT??
Even the labbed prop may get you no gain depending on what you are running now. The first thing that netted me a real performance gain was the Imco -2" shorty lower and the four blade (yes, labbed by Brett) prop that it required. That gave me 3 mph. Are you able to do your own work? A cam swap isn't that hard. You don't have to pull the engine if you are willing to cut a small hole in the front of the engine room and put a patch over it. I'm not sure what has to be done to the ECU. This will get you about 3 mph. Nothing comes cheap. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with outboards. You should be able to do the cam, ECU, prop and shorty (if right for your boat) for under $5,000 and pick up about 5 mph. I think that is money well spent.
thirdchildhood is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 12:20 PM
  #34  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The very first thing to do is aquire an accurate means of seeing "real" engine speeds (if you haven't already).

That nice livorsi tach on your dash is not accurate enough for propping based on my experience.
SDFever is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 12:30 PM
  #35  
Gold Member
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,747
Received 866 Likes on 325 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
Even the labbed prop may get you no gain depending on what you are running now. The first thing that netted me a real performance gain was the Imco -2" shorty lower and the four blade (yes, labbed by Brett) prop that it required. That gave me 3 mph. Are you able to do your own work? A cam swap isn't that hard. You don't have to pull the engine if you are willing to cut a small hole in the front of the engine room and put a patch over it. I'm not sure what has to be done to the ECU. This will get you about 3 mph. Nothing comes cheap. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with outboards. You should be able to do the cam, ECU, prop and shorty (if right for your boat) for under $5,000 and pick up about 5 mph. I think that is money well spent.
I agree, you wont break the sound barrier but it is money well spent on a Mag model 496. I dont have a velocity but I assume they have an aggressive x dimension already. If it does, skip the shorty and get a pair of Dana's

There, we just spent $5000 for you - aint OSO grand!
Keith Atlanta is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 04:17 PM
  #36  
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

The Velocity 260 comes from the factory with a Labbed 26p Bravo Prop. I bought a Hydromotive Quad 4 for mine and noticed a 1-2 mph gain on top end, but lost cruiing efficency with the family loaded in the boat.... And seemed to pick up a nasty chine walk Around 65. I went back to the stock Bravo prop that was supplied by Velocity. Just some experience from a Velocity 260 owner w/496 mag....

If your 260 doesn't have trim tabs, that is where I would spend the money. It made a complete difference in my boat as I was able to maintain higher speeds without having to back it down becasue it was flying out of the water....

Last edited by low_psi; 01-07-2011 at 04:19 PM.
low_psi is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 04:21 PM
  #37  
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SDFever
The very first thing to do is aquire an accurate means of seeing "real" engine speeds (if you haven't already).

That nice livorsi tach on your dash is not accurate enough for propping based on my experience.
Very True, my Tach shows to be about 300 rpm off at idle. We verified this by having it hocked up to a diagonistic computer while at idle. Who knows how much it is off up higher in the Revs.
low_psi is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 04:24 PM
  #38  
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I can spell decent, it's my tyoping skills that need work
low_psi is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 04:35 PM
  #39  
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

back in 2001 i buy a new baja 272 with a 375 HP,in 2002 i put a HO cam and a new HO ecm.best top speed=375 HP=62, 425HP=66.4 all GPS with the same mirage 23+.i still have the boat with over 600 hrs never had a problem.cant remember the cost of the parts (around 2000.00 i think)very easy job to do with the shop manual.i now run the boat with a 23 rev 4 lost is about 1 MPH but the boat is lot more fun to drive everywere else.
zx14k is offline  
Old 01-07-2011, 05:24 PM
  #40  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 780
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I added tabs a couple years ago and I have a labbed 28 from the factory as well as a labbed 26 (I believe) I tried on it, the 28 is excellent and I have seen high 60's with the boat in this configuration. I was just tossing some ideas around, and know with the HO in a test this boat ran upper 70's. I would just like to be able to break that 70 mark regularly... and by low budget I was figuring $1000-$2000.... Thanks for all the replies
007joe is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.