350 Mag cutting out at WOT
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350 Mag cutting out at WOT
Hey guys,
I got the boat out for the first time this year, and she was running like a top! Started out nice and easy, idled for about 5 mins, then another 20 mins of ~2500 rpm cruising, then a 2 min wide open run at ~4500 rpm. Everything was running perfectly up to that point. I cruised around for another 20 mins or so at ~3000 rpm, and then went to make another WOT run. As the RPM's came up, the motor started missing, I checked the temp and oil pressure, and they were fine. I dropped down the throttle, and it started to smooth out the closer I got to idle. I just idled back to the launch with no problems.
Any ideas? I'm thinking it may be a fuel filter or pump, but I'm not sure. I'm going to swap the filter in any case, it got skipped during this seasons maintenance.
Since last season, I did the following maintenance:
Cap, Rotor, Plugs and wires (Plugs gaped correctly)
Compression test (155-160 in each hole)
Oil
Drive lube
Impeller
Thanks guys
-Rob
I got the boat out for the first time this year, and she was running like a top! Started out nice and easy, idled for about 5 mins, then another 20 mins of ~2500 rpm cruising, then a 2 min wide open run at ~4500 rpm. Everything was running perfectly up to that point. I cruised around for another 20 mins or so at ~3000 rpm, and then went to make another WOT run. As the RPM's came up, the motor started missing, I checked the temp and oil pressure, and they were fine. I dropped down the throttle, and it started to smooth out the closer I got to idle. I just idled back to the launch with no problems.
Any ideas? I'm thinking it may be a fuel filter or pump, but I'm not sure. I'm going to swap the filter in any case, it got skipped during this seasons maintenance.
Since last season, I did the following maintenance:
Cap, Rotor, Plugs and wires (Plugs gaped correctly)
Compression test (155-160 in each hole)
Oil
Drive lube
Impeller
Thanks guys
-Rob
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Could be a little water in the fuel. Change the fuel/water separating filter and dump the contents into a foil pan and look for water bubbles at the bottom of the pan. Are you running fresh fuel or last year's gas? Also, you should be turning 5,000 RPM at WOT on a 350 MAG (assuming it is an MPI motor).
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I'll check out that separator. It was last years gas with Sta-Bil.
Sorry, forgot to include my boat info!
It's a 1990 Scarab 21, original 350 Mag (Carbed)
The RPM issue is because the previous owner put a 4 blade Merc Rev4 21 pitch prop. Just a little too much pitch for this thing. I'm looking for a Mirage 21 3 blade to try out, but can't seem to find one locally.
Thanks
-Rob
Sorry, forgot to include my boat info!
It's a 1990 Scarab 21, original 350 Mag (Carbed)
The RPM issue is because the previous owner put a 4 blade Merc Rev4 21 pitch prop. Just a little too much pitch for this thing. I'm looking for a Mirage 21 3 blade to try out, but can't seem to find one locally.
Thanks
-Rob
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Definately put a new water separator filter in it. Change your regular fuel filter also (they are cheap). Just for piece of mind...pull the distributor cap again and see if there is any corrosion on the brass tabs on the inside. Sometimes they get "frosting"on them from condensation. Its worth a look sir.
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I'll check out that separator. It was last years gas with Sta-Bil.
Sorry, forgot to include my boat info!
It's a 1990 Scarab 21, original 350 Mag (Carbed)
The RPM issue is because the previous owner put a 4 blade Merc Rev4 21 pitch prop. Just a little too much pitch for this thing. I'm looking for a Mirage 21 3 blade to try out, but can't seem to find one locally.
Thanks
-Rob
Sorry, forgot to include my boat info!
It's a 1990 Scarab 21, original 350 Mag (Carbed)
The RPM issue is because the previous owner put a 4 blade Merc Rev4 21 pitch prop. Just a little too much pitch for this thing. I'm looking for a Mirage 21 3 blade to try out, but can't seem to find one locally.
Thanks
-Rob
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Well, I swapped out the fuel separator and the fuel filter. I did notice that when I removed the filter, there was some sediment and sand in it.
Another thing that I noticed after removing the separator, and unscrewing the fittings for the filter, is that there was quite a bit of pressure built up in the line between the separator and the carb, even after not being started for a couple of days. It sprayed fuel out under pressure when I removed the line, so I'm going to guess my pump is in ok shape.
I dumped the separator into a pan, and didn't notice any bubbles, just looked like straight fuel to me.
I checked out the cap, that still looks like brand new.
Knot 4 Me: That's what I heard I should be running, 4800 to 5000. I've been looking for a prop to borrow, or pickup cheap, but haven't found one yet.
Thanks for the help guys, I'll be water testing this thing again once the weather clears up here.
-Rob
Another thing that I noticed after removing the separator, and unscrewing the fittings for the filter, is that there was quite a bit of pressure built up in the line between the separator and the carb, even after not being started for a couple of days. It sprayed fuel out under pressure when I removed the line, so I'm going to guess my pump is in ok shape.
I dumped the separator into a pan, and didn't notice any bubbles, just looked like straight fuel to me.
I checked out the cap, that still looks like brand new.
Knot 4 Me: That's what I heard I should be running, 4800 to 5000. I've been looking for a prop to borrow, or pickup cheap, but haven't found one yet.
Thanks for the help guys, I'll be water testing this thing again once the weather clears up here.
-Rob
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Best thing to do with the separator is to pour it into a glass jar and let it sit and see if any water separates out. Obviously you would need a way to put a top on it
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Well, I swapped out the fuel separator and the fuel filter. I did notice that when I removed the filter, there was some sediment and sand in it.
Another thing that I noticed after removing the separator, and unscrewing the fittings for the filter, is that there was quite a bit of pressure built up in the line between the separator and the carb, even after not being started for a couple of days. It sprayed fuel out under pressure when I removed the line, so I'm going to guess my pump is in ok shape.
I dumped the separator into a pan, and didn't notice any bubbles, just looked like straight fuel to me.
I checked out the cap, that still looks like brand new.
Knot 4 Me: That's what I heard I should be running, 4800 to 5000. I've been looking for a prop to borrow, or pickup cheap, but haven't found one yet.
Thanks for the help guys, I'll be water testing this thing again once the weather clears up here.
-Rob
Another thing that I noticed after removing the separator, and unscrewing the fittings for the filter, is that there was quite a bit of pressure built up in the line between the separator and the carb, even after not being started for a couple of days. It sprayed fuel out under pressure when I removed the line, so I'm going to guess my pump is in ok shape.
I dumped the separator into a pan, and didn't notice any bubbles, just looked like straight fuel to me.
I checked out the cap, that still looks like brand new.
Knot 4 Me: That's what I heard I should be running, 4800 to 5000. I've been looking for a prop to borrow, or pickup cheap, but haven't found one yet.
Thanks for the help guys, I'll be water testing this thing again once the weather clears up here.
-Rob
if so you will need to remove the top of the carb,remove the 2 fuel floats and unscrew the needle and seats,under the seats theirs a little tiny screen that filters the fuel before it goes through the needle and seat,,clean those screens,,they are probably all plugged with chit..
if its a Q-jet their is a rock filter that is probably plugged with crap restricting the flo of fuel..