NEW 502 blocks
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Yea the typical OSO mindset of budgets doesnt work for us all. I am buying no cheap parts by any means but i shop around to find rebranded parts made by major big name manufacturers. Too often you are paying for name IMO. My rod are 4340 H beams from Engine Pro. Actually made by Manley and identical to the Manley brand version. Engine Pro bearings are actually ACL bearings just rebranded. It is like buying store brand food, made in same factory on same line, just a different label on the can. That is what I look for. Why pay more for the same darn thing?
From what I can tell, this block comes from the same foundry and machines as a world/merlin block which are historically "good" blocks. So in my mind it equates to basically a gen 6 merlin block.
I would like to hear of a few on here who actually built motors from these blocks.
From what I can tell, this block comes from the same foundry and machines as a world/merlin block which are historically "good" blocks. So in my mind it equates to basically a gen 6 merlin block.
I would like to hear of a few on here who actually built motors from these blocks.
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Yea the typical OSO mindset of budgets doesnt work for us all. I am buying no cheap parts by any means but i shop around to find rebranded parts made by major big name manufacturers. Too often you are paying for name IMO. My rod are 4340 H beams from Engine Pro. Actually made by Manley and identical to the Manley brand version. Engine Pro bearings are actually ACL bearings just rebranded. It is like buying store brand food, made in same factory on same line, just a different label on the can. That is what I look for. Why pay more for the same darn thing?
From what I can tell, this block comes from the same foundry and machines as a world/merlin block which are historically "good" blocks. So in my mind it equates to basically a gen 6 merlin block.
I would like to hear of a few on here who actually built motors from these blocks.
From what I can tell, this block comes from the same foundry and machines as a world/merlin block which are historically "good" blocks. So in my mind it equates to basically a gen 6 merlin block.
I would like to hear of a few on here who actually built motors from these blocks.
I cant speak for these engine blocks, but yes, I agree. The majority of stuff on the market is rebranded and marked up.
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Ive been waiting to try a set of those enginepro rods. My local warehouse carries that line, and the cost of them is a no brainer. I was also told they are made by Manley.
I cant speak for these engine blocks, but yes, I agree. The majority of stuff on the market is rebranded and marked up.
I cant speak for these engine blocks, but yes, I agree. The majority of stuff on the market is rebranded and marked up.
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I don't know who is making these blocks, but it isn't World or PBM. My guess would be Pro Comp if there is no identifying markings on them. All World's blocks have a World logo cast on them and they are cast and machined here in the USA. PBM has not made any iron blocks for several years. Whether or not the blocks in question are cast in China I can't say - but if there isn't a World logo on them, they are something other than World Products. Just my $.02
This is about the closest thing i can find and is gmpp:
http://paceperformance.com/i-6255475...ch-bosses.html
PBM's website lists one block that doesn't carry a "see WORLD" price tag and fits the bore size but their website stinks and doesnt provide any other specs:
http://www.pbmperformance.com/store....777&parent=773
I would like to hear from Precision and find out if he talked to anyone about it at PRI.
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Liquidlounge!! Reason!!! is why spend the big money on the Dart blocks last ones I bought for a pair plus shipping was over 5,000.00.When all you want to do is build a almost stock 502 and no used blocks are available and your using all your stock gm parts except for a cam.Don't need any high dollar blocks on a blue collar guys pocket.If they are giving them away I'll take 2.That is the reason. JOHN SR
There you go, $1800.00 for your "almost stock 502" AND at my local Chevy dealer. Sorry, but QC on Chinese metallurgy is just above Iron Age methods, not to mention the GM machining should be way more consistent. Granted, this block is probably now produced in a maquiladora, but overall, I am sure the product will be far superior in virtually everyway to its Chinese cast, sales organization sold counterpart. As a bonus for you and me, more levels of added value are going to resonate through the US economy with the GM or any US made product. AND NO, I'm not a union member. I happen to be a business owner and very conservative (politically at least!
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They also have some Inconel valves in their lineup. Wonder if those are manleys too. I don't like buying cheap parts at cheap prices, but I do like buying good parts at cheap prices. A while back I got quoted 410.00 for Eagle H beams with ARP 2000 option, and 345.00 for Enginepro with arp2000 option. If indeed they are Manley's, how can ya not want to try them, when the Manley rod lists for around 700.00.
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The warehouse over here has been an engine pro supplier for a long time. They been in business at same location since 1976. The guys there been selling cranks, pistons, rods, etc to machine shops all over the Midwest area. When I asked about those rods, they said they are a great rod, and have received nothing but good feedback on them. They also sell eagle, scat, manley, etc. He showed me one of the engine pro H beams and seemed like a really nice piece.
They also have some Inconel valves in their lineup. Wonder if those are manleys too. I don't like buying cheap parts at cheap prices, but I do like buying good parts at cheap prices. A while back I got quoted 410.00 for Eagle H beams with ARP 2000 option, and 345.00 for Enginepro with arp2000 option. If indeed they are Manley's, how can ya not want to try them, when the Manley rod lists for around 700.00.
They also have some Inconel valves in their lineup. Wonder if those are manleys too. I don't like buying cheap parts at cheap prices, but I do like buying good parts at cheap prices. A while back I got quoted 410.00 for Eagle H beams with ARP 2000 option, and 345.00 for Enginepro with arp2000 option. If indeed they are Manley's, how can ya not want to try them, when the Manley rod lists for around 700.00.
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http://www.superchevyperformance.com...p/19170540.htm
There you go, $1800.00 for your "almost stock 502" AND at my local Chevy dealer. Sorry, but QC on Chinese metallurgy is just above Iron Age methods, not to mention the GM machining should be way more consistent. Granted, this block is probably now produced in a maquiladora, but overall, I am sure the product will be far superior in virtually everyway to its Chinese cast, sales organization sold counterpart. As a bonus for you and me, more levels of added value are going to resonate through the US economy with the GM or any US made product. AND NO, I'm not a union member. I happen to be a business owner and very conservative (politically at least!
) Good luck with your project!
There you go, $1800.00 for your "almost stock 502" AND at my local Chevy dealer. Sorry, but QC on Chinese metallurgy is just above Iron Age methods, not to mention the GM machining should be way more consistent. Granted, this block is probably now produced in a maquiladora, but overall, I am sure the product will be far superior in virtually everyway to its Chinese cast, sales organization sold counterpart. As a bonus for you and me, more levels of added value are going to resonate through the US economy with the GM or any US made product. AND NO, I'm not a union member. I happen to be a business owner and very conservative (politically at least!
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