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Old 05-17-2015, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nunnink23
SB - absolutely. Let's give it a shot. Thank you so much
I did right after i posted that.

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Old 05-17-2015, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SB
I did right after i posted that.
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Can I just say how ****ty it's running is very odd lol?! It's not consistent. It runs up to 1800 then falls on its face, as if the engine shut off. Then it recovers if I cut the throttle quick enough. It surges at idle after revving... And the cold start problem on top of that unless given extra fuel. Is there any other sensor/part I should be checking? Idk guys... As I said I'm going to get on the waiting list for a marina, but I really want to fix this myself.

OBDII diagnostics has a scan tool for a laptop that will apparently read all the same data a Rinda tool will, for 180 bucks versus 700. Any thoughts?

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Old 05-17-2015, 09:39 PM
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Could you post the injector model and brand of the type you just put in.I would not waste on more penny on parts this is a injector problem or ground
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tail_Gunner
Could you post the injector model and brand of the type you just put in.I would not waste on more penny on parts this is a injector problem or ground
TG - you changed your name! I would post the original ones, but I can't find the part number. It's non existent on the injector.

The new injectors are Standard TJ11's
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:49 PM
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Guys - one more thought. How expensive/realistic is it to switch to MPI? I am willing to spend around 1k to convert to a full MPI setup if you all think it's worth it.
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:52 PM
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Could you post the injector model and brand of the type you just put in.I would not waste on more penny on parts this is a injector problem or ground
It's not wasting $$ on this set. Just shipping 2 states away. Cheap.
The last set...we'll see. Could have been a waste.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:43 PM
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So rock auto had three injectors listed. The TJ11's didn't work (unless something else is wrong). That leaves two more. The 500-2016 injectors are described as "5.7 gsi" under the application. They are walker products. The issue is I can't find that part number in the walker product catalog. I can however find the last injector listed on rock auto - "500-2000". Rock auto doesn't give a description, but the walker catalog only gives V6 volvo injector part numbers. Then right at the very end of the volvo Penta injector guide, it lists no model, but lists 5.7/V8 1994-2007, and the "500-1136" injector next to it.

I know it sounds crazy, but should I buy both the other sets from Rock Auto if your suggestion doesn't work SB?

Lastly, I am about to buy the MEFI burn scan tool, rather than the Rinda tool. Is there any reason not to?

If you guys think the Rinda tool is worth it, I will buy it. It's an investment in the future as well.

Www.obd2allinone.com/mefiscan.asp

I can probably get it in to a local marina (mine won't work on Volvo Penta), next week. I don't have any certified Volvo shops near me, unless I trailer it there. Most want it in the water. I know experience counts, but with the proper tool (Rinda Diacom), I feel pretty confident I can pinpoint the issue. The only question is should I wait for my new set of injectors first. I know I am getting antsy and that's never good for a wallet.

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Old 05-18-2015, 11:10 AM
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OK i believe the injector your looking for is gm 852956, a little more research needs to be done but that should be the right injector. I need to find the spec's for that part to confrim it however it can be crossed referenced to STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # TJ17
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Originally Posted by Tail_Gunner
OK i believe the injector your looking for is gm 852956, a little more research needs to be done but that should be the right injector. I need to find the spec's for that part to confrim it however it can be crossed referenced to STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # TJ17
TG, where did you find that? I did a little digging today, and I am thinking that the OP in the post we referenced earlier had bought one of the two walker injectors.

I won't have time to read these until later, but it looks like the black/yellow injectors are indeed the right ones.

SB - are the ones you're sending black/yellow style?

http://www.smwebhead.com/phpBB3/view...0473&view=next

http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tbi/4...injectors.html
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Old 05-18-2015, 12:34 PM
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http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/#/ve...58941-2?type=s

http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/STD/#/ve...58941-2?type=s

Confirmed thats the right injector 3858941-2VOLVO PENTA MARINE

http://www.iboats.com/Tbi-Injector-1...view_id.712848

Replaces OEM part #•MERCURY MARINE 852956A1
•VOLVO PENTA 3858941
Fits:MerCruiser MCM GM V6 & V8(305 &350) TBI engines
Fits: Volvo 4.3GXi-A, 4.3GLPWTC, 4.3GLPWTR, 4.3GSPWTC, 4.3GSPWTR, 4.3GIPWTC, 4.3GIPWTR, 4.3GIJWTR, 4.3GSJWTR, 4.3GLPEFS AND 4.3GiPEFS

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