turbo2256b

218/ 222 ish .050 cam maybe a bit more but wondering with that exh and reversion, lift not a lot of improvement going over .500 lift in fact might loose more low end than gain in peak power. Exh is also going to limit out put based on flow #s.

GLENAMY 242SS

murfman, There is a MoPar guru not far from you in the Chicago area. Ron @ Hemi Design/Hemi Performance. He has been doing MoPar and Harley head/intake for many years.
He is a really nice and knowledgeable man. Maybe try giving him a call to discuss your motors. Ron's number is 708-656-4364 tell him Gary in TX says Hi.

murfman

I've been to his shop before its in Cicero IIRC He is a good guy, really took off with the Harley stuff, and that is what he mostly does now. I have a close friend that has been doing Mopar Cylinder heads for 30 plus years, Mike Radnis at Rad Racing.

murfman

With the Mopar .904 dia lifter, the quicker ramps of the roller cam, and the 1.6 ratio rocker arms,its almost difficult to keep the cam down to .500 lift.

murfman

The Mopar manifolds are a different animal than the Chevy manifolds. The Edelbrock Performer RPM intake is pretty much equal to the Torker 2 above 5000 RPM but makes more power from 2500-5000.

Dyno Results

Horsepower
Superflow 901 Engine Dyno
Tested at Westech Performance Group
RPM Test 1 Test 2 Test 3 Test 4 Test 5
3,000 234.8 232.2 226.9 N/R 221.8
3,200 251.6 248.1 241.8 241.5 240.6
3,400 276.8 279.2 272.3 268.0 266.2
3,600 302.5 311.5 301.4 297.8 297.3
3,800 319.2 339.3 327.0 325.7 323.6
4,000 341.7 357.7 342.4 342.6 342.9
4,200 360.7 374.1 356.3 357.4 361.0
4,400 371.1 387.1 376.5 377.2 380.6
4,600 384.5 404.1 393.4 398.1 400.5
4,800 400.7 419.4 407.8 418.3 416.1
5,000 413.1 433.5 420.5 434.8 432.3
5,200 423.3 445.3 429.2 448.2 443.5
5,400 433.8 453.1 443.2 458.7 453.1
5,600 441.1 460.6 453.7 468.0 460.5
5,800 448.2 464.5 461.9 470.3 467.8
6,000 451.2 472.9 462.5 473.3 472.2
6,200 449.2 475.4 462.7 475.7 473.8

Test 1: Edelbrock Performer

Test 2: Edelbrock Performer RPM AirGap

Test 3: Mopar/Holley Six Pack

Test 4: Edelbrock Torker II

Test 5: Holley Strip Dominator
Torque
Superflow 901 Engine Dyno
Tested at Westech Performance Group
RPM Test 1 Test 2 Test 3 Test 4 Test 5
3,000 411.1 406.4 397.3 N/R 388.3
3,200 412.9 407.3 396.8 396.3 394.9
3,400 427.6 431.3 420.6 413.9 411.2
3,600 441.4 454.4 439.7 434.4 433.7
3,800 441.1 468.9 452.0 450.1 447.3
4,000 448.7 469.7 449.6 449.9 450.2
4,200 451.1 467.7 445.6 447.0 451.1
4,400 443.0 462.1 449.4 450.3 454.3
4,600 439.0 461.4 449.1 454.6 457.3
4,800 438.5 458.9 446.2 457.7 455.3
5,000 434.0 455.4 441.7 456.7 454.0
5,200 427.5 449.7 433.5 452.7 447.9
5,400 421.9 440.7 431.1 446.1 440.7
5,600 413.7 432.0 425.5 438.9 431.9
5,800 405.9 420.7 418.3 425.9 423.6
6,000 395.0 414.0 404.9 414.3 413.4
6,200 381.1 402.7 392.0 403.0 401.3

In this test the Torker II actually was a used manifold with some port wok done and still lost to the Performer RPM

GLENAMY 242SS

Yea, he did my Harley power beyond belief.

murfman

The restriction of the exhaust is why I am running a split grind cam.

turbo2256b

Would like to see more info on the tests

murfman

Here is a HotRodtest

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1506-...old-flow-test/


And a test with Dyno comparisons

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...block-intakes/

turbo2256b

Years ago began testing intakes flow myself 15 or so years ago and have ported heads and intakes for like 5 decades. Difference between tests in article and how I do testing is with the manifold attached to a head. This gives a better idea of what is happening. As an example I have tested intakes for small blocks that flow 250 CFM free flow ,as in the article, then bolted to a head that would flow 250 or more CFM only flow 170 through the intake give or take good port or bad port. Most small block Performer RPM intakes average flow is under 170 CFM average.

Also not sure if he is sucking or pushing air through the intake as he has it mounted which could make a difference in readings.

Also discovered depending on heads ports some dual planes flow on average better on lower runners some better on upper runners it depends on port entry angles