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Old 12-15-2016, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
Mike Lewis built a pump gas 565 with the 300 Ovals and it made over 900hp. If you look at the flow numbers of the 300's they are right in line with the 335's all the way to .700" lift. There have been many cylinder head shootouts on 540's and the 300's out perform everything. I think for a low RPM marine build its the ideal head. I was seriously considering them for my 572's but they are a little pricey so I cheated out...
900 hp pump gas 565,tell us more about this engine.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:50 PM
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Posting my guess then going back to read the thread!
M: 253/259 110 LSA .657/640
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:50 PM
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Many years ago a good engine mentor friend of mine "REAL SMART GUY" Warren "Butch" Elkins of Diamond Racing "Diamond Pistons" drummed it in my head V/E. V/E. We had many long conversations about all types of engine builds that he was involved with over the years and I learned so damn much, and he only scratched the surface, but I digress. He worked on my Cyl Heads, made me some custom pistons and hooked me up with Harold Brookshire "ultradyne" We build some 6k RPM N/A 502 engines using a relatively small HR roller cam. My point is this: I see guys putting together engines with some parts best suited for 5k RPM mated with some parts best suited for a 10K RPM pro stock engine.. Some guys get in the mind set that bigger is always better like a bigger cam. or bigger heads. or bigger carbs, or bigger intakes, etc. this is not the case. Volumetric Efficiency starts 4 ft ahead of the air cleaner, and ends 4 ft behind the exhaust tips.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by abones
Many years ago a good engine mentor friend of mine "REAL SMART GUY" Warren "Butch" Elkins of Diamond Racing "Diamond Pistons" drummed it in my head V/E. V/E. We had many long conversations about all types of engine builds that he was involved with over the years and I learned so damn much, and he only scratched the surface, but I digress. He worked on my Cyl Heads, made me some custom pistons and hooked me up with Harold Brookshire "ultradyne" We build some 6k RPM N/A 502 engines using a relatively small HR roller cam. My point is this: I see guys putting together engines with some parts best suited for 5k RPM mated with some parts best suited for a 10K RPM pro stock engine.. Some guys get in the mind set that bigger is always better like a bigger cam. or bigger heads. or bigger carbs, or bigger intakes, etc. this is not the case. Volumetric Efficiency starts 4 ft ahead of the air cleaner, and ends 4 ft behind the exhaust tips.
yep,the best head/cam combination won,t make good power with to small of a carb and wrong intake manifold and exhaust needs to get it out of the cylinder head.
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:05 PM
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Very true... like going thru 2 or 3 sets of engines before finding the hatch was restricting air or a muffler was hanging up
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:13 AM
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Still gotta wonder how Jim v made over 784 @ 6,000 with a duration at basically same as 741 with more lift. Sure it's efi tunnel ram but still kinda funny. Most stay away from tunnel ram under 6k but....just something to think about.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:08 AM
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Very good read , thanks for putting the time in to get this together. A little surprised the bigger cams did not perform better but having a 540 with the 741, ported 088's and a QF950 I'm happy with the results

I choose because of the split pattern with wet exhaust believing you have to help scavenge the cyl.and the poor 088 ex.in my case
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by midwest272
Very good read , thanks for putting the time in to get this together. A little surprised the bigger cams did not perform better but having a 540 with the 741, ported 088's and a QF950 I'm happy with the results

I choose because of the split pattern with wet exhaust believing you have to help scavenge the cyl.and the poor 088 ex.in my case
The cam software I have, certainly extends exhaust duration, when the exhaust port flow is poor. It becomes even more pronounced, when the rpm is increased.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
Another question, are the averages taken from every 500rpm figure shown, or is it done every 100 rpm like a normal dyno test?
I'm not sure if this was answered ?
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Old 12-16-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
I'm not sure if this was answered ?
Sorry SB, i must have missed that. I believe it is taking the average from every 500 rpm. Ill double check later
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