Interceptor

Anyone have any knowledge regarding which height exhaust riser works on the mercruiser 454/420's using EMI exhaust manifolds ? They have a standard and 3" higher riser. The standard states not to be used on engines with aftermarket camshafts. These engines have the mercruiser supplied camshafts.
My question centers around reversion and also hatch clearance.
thanks, ed

Griff

The 454/420's were mated to TRS drives. Is that what you have??

Reversion is more about the downward angle and length of riser. TRS risers are longer and water mixes farther down.

I ran standard long IMCO risers with a cam slightly more aggressive than the 420 cam and didn't have any issues

AllDodge

Standard install measurements

Interceptor

This is in a Bravo application with silent choice.

AllDodge

My 502 (415hp) was using EMI's with silent choice and I didn't quite have 13 inches up from the water with no issues. After rebuild I removed the standard risers and installed the 3 inch higher because of more hp. Still have the regular ones

EMI Thunder Exhaust System-BB Chevy With SS Silent Choice Risers Colored Finish

Griff

The shorter risers with silent choice could cause reversion. There is now way to tell for sure prior to the install.
That is why EMI recommends the 3" taller ones.

dereknkathy

This is about the only engine that needs exhaust upgrade in bone stock form. That stock merc exhaust can handle 454 mags, but that is approaching their airflow limit. Dunno why they didn't use the Gil design they put on everything else bigger than 454. The old 420 merc exhaust flowed good, but leaked water bad at the riser joint.

Interceptor

So I'm still trying to understand. Has anyone run a 454/420 or engine with a similar cam (assuming the cam is the issue) using a GIL, EMI type manifold and standard riser and silent choice system and Bravo outdrive ? and did you have reversion ?
ed

dereknkathy

that 420 cam is pretty much extinct. flat tappet. a lot of duration. found old thread, so old dennis moore weighed in on it. but you should upgrade those cams instead of trying to build around them.

Griff

The same cam was used in the 525SC which came with Gil's and then later CMI's.
None of the parts diagrams show a short riser/tail available with the 525SC.

Personally, I wouldn't chance it and I'd run longer risers with good mufflers.