Dart Big M Block Questions
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Dart Big M Block Questions
Ladies, Gentlemen and others....
Quick question, that may lead to others....
I'm entertaining a fantasy of building a 632 monster, starting from a Dart Big M block. Can this engine be built and shoehorned into the same space as the 496HO that's currently under the sundeck of my PowerQuest 280 Silencer, and keep it under the hood? Looking for any contingencies/concessions that would be involved in making it work, not so much reasons why it won't. Obviously, if it just can't, it just can't, but I figure since I'm starting from scratch......
Thought I'd get this question outta the way first, then we can move onto more in-depth material.
Thanks. Brad.
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Quick question, that may lead to others....
I'm entertaining a fantasy of building a 632 monster, starting from a Dart Big M block. Can this engine be built and shoehorned into the same space as the 496HO that's currently under the sundeck of my PowerQuest 280 Silencer, and keep it under the hood? Looking for any contingencies/concessions that would be involved in making it work, not so much reasons why it won't. Obviously, if it just can't, it just can't, but I figure since I'm starting from scratch......
Thought I'd get this question outta the way first, then we can move onto more in-depth material.
Thanks. Brad.
(937)-545-8991
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Strangely enough, I got it from a HS biology teacher during my sophomore year, something like ‘86. She was a hoot.
Thanks. Brad.
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Ladies, Gentlemen and others....
Quick question, that may lead to others....
I'm entertaining a fantasy of building a 632 monster, starting from a Dart Big M block. Can this engine be built and shoehorned into the same space as the 496HO that's currently under the sundeck of my PowerQuest 280 Silencer, and keep it under the hood? Looking for any contingencies/concessions that would be involved in making it work, not so much reasons why it won't. Obviously, if it just can't, it just can't, but I figure since I'm starting from scratch......
Thought I'd get this question outta the way first, then we can move onto more in-depth material.
Thanks. Brad.
(937)-545-8991
Quick question, that may lead to others....
I'm entertaining a fantasy of building a 632 monster, starting from a Dart Big M block. Can this engine be built and shoehorned into the same space as the 496HO that's currently under the sundeck of my PowerQuest 280 Silencer, and keep it under the hood? Looking for any contingencies/concessions that would be involved in making it work, not so much reasons why it won't. Obviously, if it just can't, it just can't, but I figure since I'm starting from scratch......
Thought I'd get this question outta the way first, then we can move onto more in-depth material.
Thanks. Brad.
(937)-545-8991
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What about block length? I just trying to imagine cramming four cylinders per bank at 4.6”+ diameter into a block the same length as one with a bore of 4.3”. Something’s gotta give. I don’t know how much extra length in the block I can accommodate. Just curious where the extra space is taken up. Cylinder wall? Block length? I’m new to this, as is obvious.
Thanks. Brad.
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block stays the same it the bore size that changes, even a sbc and a bbc are the same length from the motor mount back
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Hogie,
What about block length? I just trying to imagine cramming four cylinders per bank at 4.6”+ diameter into a block the same length as one with a bore of 4.3”. Something’s gotta give. I don’t know how much extra length in the block I can accommodate. Just curious where the extra space is taken up. Cylinder wall? Block length? I’m new to this, as is obvious.
Thanks. Brad.
(932)545-8991
What about block length? I just trying to imagine cramming four cylinders per bank at 4.6”+ diameter into a block the same length as one with a bore of 4.3”. Something’s gotta give. I don’t know how much extra length in the block I can accommodate. Just curious where the extra space is taken up. Cylinder wall? Block length? I’m new to this, as is obvious.
Thanks. Brad.
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The ability to go the 4.625" max bore most aftermarket blocks suggest is the fact the Mark IV big block was designed with 4.840" bore centers and carried onto the later generations.
So, couple that with the thicker and "siamesed" cylinders on the aftermarket blocks are cast with, they can go the 4.625" and there's no need for the block to be longer.
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Mark IV 454's and your latest Gen 496 are 4.250" bore standard.
The ability to go the 4.625" max bore most aftermarket blocks suggest is the fact the Mark IV big block was designed with 4.840" bore centers and carried onto the later generations.
So, couple that with the thicker and "siamesed" cylinders on the aftermarket blocks are cast with, they can go the 4.625" and there's no need for the block to be longer.
The ability to go the 4.625" max bore most aftermarket blocks suggest is the fact the Mark IV big block was designed with 4.840" bore centers and carried onto the later generations.
So, couple that with the thicker and "siamesed" cylinders on the aftermarket blocks are cast with, they can go the 4.625" and there's no need for the block to be longer.
Thanks for the info.
Just to be clear, speaking specifically to length, I can expect a fully dressed Dart Big M engine to fit in the same space as the Merc 496 I have now….? Technically, it should be shorter, given there is a ProCharger pulley that would not be in the mix. Or this space could be repurposed for a dry sump oil pump pulley. Is this correct?