Help**The Head Bolt Heads are rusted OFF
12-27-2003, 07:54 PM
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Worst case senario..... you will have to find a shop that does EDM removal.... I've had broken off studs removed. .....but it isn't cheap... usually $45.00 per bolt..... but it works like magic..
12-27-2003, 09:40 PM
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Here's what I did in a similar situation
Here is a post that I did back when one head bolt was left when I removed my heads...
QUOTE]Originally posted by ljsmith1
Well...I took the suggestion of the Craftsman Bolt-Out sockets, and I went out and purchased the impact set for $49.99. Following the set's instructions, I placed the smallest socket that would fit over the rusted head. I then applied the impact wrench to it with about 600 lb-ft of reverse force...and...zzzzziiiiipp...the Bolt-out socket flutes stripped away, and the head bolt remained firmly in place (albeit a little more chewed up). Another socket that was a little bigger - same thing.
I then tried the hammer-on standard socket approach. All I got was two split sockets and a sliced knuckle. I tried the propane torch, hammer & chisel...still stubbornly the bolt remained. Hmm...maybe the head bolt is hardened - duhhh...
It was starting more and more to look like I was going to have to drag out the Oxy-Acetylene torch and risk blowing myself up...until I got a brainstorm...D-R-E-M-E-L. Could it work? Would it have the balls to beat this thing? Would I need MORE POWER!?
Well, I started with the reinforced 1" diameter cutting wheels and I proceeded to delicately dice the top of the bolt head-just like on TV. Pie piece after pie piece, sparks and more sparks. Then, I took the cold chisel and baby sledge and proceeded to bust up the head into little itty bits. Wouldn't you know it? In about 1/2 hr and very little sweat, I was finally able to remove the bolt. And I didn't even blow myself up!
And presto! the cylinder head is now separated off the engine. Sure enough, the head gasket shows the tale of a nearby water passage seal letting go and right into cylinder #5.
What a great forum this is to get ideas! I appreciate the help that everyone gave me.
Regards,
-Larry
Hmmm...cappuchino? My wife might like this flavor.....
PS- I will post a picture of the bastard bolt as soon as I get a chance. I think I will frame it... [/QUOTE]
Let me tell you...that little tool saved my day..month..and year! It will take you a little while, but at least you will not blow up in the meantime!
Good Luck!
-Larry
QUOTE]Originally posted by ljsmith1
Well...I took the suggestion of the Craftsman Bolt-Out sockets, and I went out and purchased the impact set for $49.99. Following the set's instructions, I placed the smallest socket that would fit over the rusted head. I then applied the impact wrench to it with about 600 lb-ft of reverse force...and...zzzzziiiiipp...the Bolt-out socket flutes stripped away, and the head bolt remained firmly in place (albeit a little more chewed up). Another socket that was a little bigger - same thing.
I then tried the hammer-on standard socket approach. All I got was two split sockets and a sliced knuckle. I tried the propane torch, hammer & chisel...still stubbornly the bolt remained. Hmm...maybe the head bolt is hardened - duhhh...
It was starting more and more to look like I was going to have to drag out the Oxy-Acetylene torch and risk blowing myself up...until I got a brainstorm...D-R-E-M-E-L. Could it work? Would it have the balls to beat this thing? Would I need MORE POWER!?
Well, I started with the reinforced 1" diameter cutting wheels and I proceeded to delicately dice the top of the bolt head-just like on TV. Pie piece after pie piece, sparks and more sparks. Then, I took the cold chisel and baby sledge and proceeded to bust up the head into little itty bits. Wouldn't you know it? In about 1/2 hr and very little sweat, I was finally able to remove the bolt. And I didn't even blow myself up!
And presto! the cylinder head is now separated off the engine. Sure enough, the head gasket shows the tale of a nearby water passage seal letting go and right into cylinder #5.
What a great forum this is to get ideas! I appreciate the help that everyone gave me.
Regards,
-Larry
Hmmm...cappuchino? My wife might like this flavor.....
PS- I will post a picture of the bastard bolt as soon as I get a chance. I think I will frame it... [/QUOTE]
Let me tell you...that little tool saved my day..month..and year! It will take you a little while, but at least you will not blow up in the meantime!
Good Luck!
-Larry
12-27-2003, 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Reed Jensen
Worst case senario..... you will have to find a shop that does EDM removal.... I've had broken off studs removed. .....but it isn't cheap... usually $45.00 per bolt..... but it works like magic..
Worst case senario..... you will have to find a shop that does EDM removal.... I've had broken off studs removed. .....but it isn't cheap... usually $45.00 per bolt..... but it works like magic..
i got all but one each on each head out there is a enough to use the craftsman toll on but i am dealing with mr elcheapoo. i have a cut off tool i will try? i am taking pictures as i go I took of the oil pan ,nothing in the bottom of the pan ,very clean not even any residue.
took off the intake . clean
This motor in going to be a good one . I think the exhaust were leaking and he just keep on going
reason for th erustt there was so much belt dust on the front of the motor it looked like a motor in a car at 100K mile with no gunking.Bad .Some people are not worthy on owning a high per boat 
He would have been a good test junkie for the 500 efi 's. WFO is a under statement no consecpetion what happends when its out of the watter at WFO.He NEVER lets out.over 500 hours.
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12-28-2003, 12:39 AM
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Ginger or Mary Ann?
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Originally posted by Strip Poker 388
I don't think it will need a edm .how many people know what it is????
I don't think it will need a edm .how many people know what it is????
But then my expertise is with the traveling wire EDM's more so than the RAM EDM's. I got some blow flakes I wired out a few yrs ago, but might be better suited for the uncensored section.
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12-28-2003, 01:18 AM
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A good torch guy can have those bolt heads off in 30 seconds each. If you arent a good torch guy then take it to one. That's not a good application to "learn"on.
Won't hurt the heads (if a good torch guy does it).
I'd charge you $20 to cut all the heads off if I could get to them without having to lay in a pretzel or something.
Call around and find a good torch guy.
Won't hurt the heads (if a good torch guy does it).
I'd charge you $20 to cut all the heads off if I could get to them without having to lay in a pretzel or something.
Call around and find a good torch guy.
12-28-2003, 01:43 AM
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Ginger or Mary Ann?
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Centerpunch the bolt, drill the head off with a 1/2" drill bit then lift head up off studs. Now wasn't that simple enough?
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