MACDAD260

I put an 800 Holley on my 502 last year and my fuel mileage did not suffer at all. I have 99 secondary jets and 84 primaries. I know that seems rich but it runs good and the plugs look OK. I love the carb. It outruns the previous Weber 750 by 1 to 2 mph and it starts right up after setting for a week. Best bang for the buck I have ever spent.

Johno

I am running 86pri/ 98sec. HP 500 .30 over 731 cam at Sea altitude. Don't be shy too start big & work you way down. As Macdad has similar jetting as me. Do a search, there was a thread here before on this exact topic...if it has not been purged. Boat starts easy, don't forget to set your float levels.
John

Griff

I had the same carbs on almost the same engine. I had a stock 454Mag bottom, heads,and with a stock magnum intake with a 1"carb spacer, Crane 226/236, .531/.553 cam and Imco exhaust.
I ran 79 primaries and 94 secondaries and would spin the engine to 5400rpms. Left the sock 6.5 PowerValve on the primaries.

blue thunder

Sounds like no one is using the staggered jetting. Sounds like 79-81 primary and 93-95 secondary would be a good start. Griff, did you do a lot of plug readings to end up with the 79/94 jetting or is that just were it was when you got it?

Thanks fellas,

Dave

Griff

I got the carb with stock jetting and searched the forum for what others were using or recommending on other similar setups. I started with like 76's and and 90's and after a few plug readings, moved up.
To set the primaries, I ran the boat up to about 100 rpms before the secondaries opened,shut it down, and checked the plugs for color and the heat line on the electrode.
Did the same for the secondaries after WOT runs.

I would shut it down fast, take a couple plug readings, and then beach it to change the jets. Take your plug readings on #1 and #7 initially, as they will be the leanest. When you get it real close, then check some more of them.
The carb was always a little rich at idle.

Vmax

My 454 with 174 blower and polished and ported iron rectangular heads and crane 241 flat tappet with similar lift duration is running 82 primaries and 94 secondaries with the 800 CFM HP 500 Holley. Power valve is 6.5 with manifold reference. Given your extra cubes but no blower you will probably wind up with something a little less. The accelerator pumps on my carb were unchanged. There is conflicting info on various sites Holley, CP Performance and Summit as to whether the 800 came with 30cc primary and 50cc secondary or vice versa accelerator pumps.

Anyone know what accelerator pump configuration the HP 500 carb comes standard with? Seems to me 30/50 makes most sense for marine applicatio.

Great carb so far responsive and fuel efficient.

blue thunder

Thanks Griff, that is what I will do. I run msd ignitions so a rich idle should be ok.

Dave

blue thunder

I'll check on the factory hp500 carb I have apart this evening and let you know. I think it is 30/50 but want to verify.

Dave

blue thunder

Vmax. The carbs I have had 50 primary and 50 secondary. I'm thinking this carb is perfectly stock, the jetting was factory, so I assume the accel pumps are too. Is 30/50 a common approach to double pumpers?

Dave

Vmax

Dave,
From what I have seen with the 800 or Holley part number 9022 carburetors there appears to be three levels of marine calibration a universal marine which has 30/50 gives you biggest shot of gas when secondaries open, performance/competition with 50/30 eliminates off idle stumbles and gives biggest boost out of the hole ,
and race with 50/50 throttle responsive at through entire range with big boosts of gas.

The holley dominators all have 50/50 pumps. Super charger 2X4 set ups run 30/30. Supercharger single 1X4 50/50.
Some of the Holleys without choke horn and annular booster run 30/30.


850 CFM Universal calibration runs 30/30.
850 CFM Performance competition runs 30/50.
850 Race runs 50/50.

I'm glad to here the Mercury blue HP500 has the 50/50 set up standard issue since that is what mine started out as. Probably also explains why there is so much black soot build up on these carbs air horns after running a short time. I don't see that out the tail pipes though with my jetting and my blower. If I were you I would try the 50/50. If initial holeshot bogs try 30/50 to lean it up and save a few pennies on gas when puttering around. But I'm not a carb expert just an engineer who likes to analyze things. Myself I tend to stay away from the full throttle start with the blower and an early bravo drive to keep teeth on the gears. The secondary kick on my boat is a grin a minute. Gotta burn the fossil fuel in large quantities with hair on fire.