Towing about 9600 lbs. Need your advice!
03-03-2002, 07:00 PM
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Bryan,
My comments were meant to address outlawinil's question about the payoff on the diesel. I never really ran the numbers, but with 4" of new snow, working on the boat was out of the question today. i.e. I was bored and nothing better to do.
I agree with your purchase. The PSD is better than the V10 when it comes to mileage, longevity and towing ability. You made the same decision I did regarding gas versus diesel. Diesel is the better choice. What prevented us from going that way was availability of the Dmax (no other dealers would dealer trade with our dealer) and that it is a new engine with no history. The PSD has a good history and is a proven performer. No real world history exists for the Dmax.
I took the prices off of edmunds.com. The A-plan pricing is a formula based upon the GM employee price plus 4% or so (It has been 4 months since we bought, so details are fuzzy). This puts you in at around $500 under dealer invoice. So your observation regarding the price is probably correct. The good part for the consumer is the no-haggle purchase and I believe the dealer gets a little extra kicked back for taking care of the transaction. It can be a win-win.
Like I said in my post. I am a FORD guy. However, the wife liked the heated seats in the Chevy better and it is her daily driver. Isn't that pitiful?
My comments were meant to address outlawinil's question about the payoff on the diesel. I never really ran the numbers, but with 4" of new snow, working on the boat was out of the question today. i.e. I was bored and nothing better to do.
I agree with your purchase. The PSD is better than the V10 when it comes to mileage, longevity and towing ability. You made the same decision I did regarding gas versus diesel. Diesel is the better choice. What prevented us from going that way was availability of the Dmax (no other dealers would dealer trade with our dealer) and that it is a new engine with no history. The PSD has a good history and is a proven performer. No real world history exists for the Dmax.
I took the prices off of edmunds.com. The A-plan pricing is a formula based upon the GM employee price plus 4% or so (It has been 4 months since we bought, so details are fuzzy). This puts you in at around $500 under dealer invoice. So your observation regarding the price is probably correct. The good part for the consumer is the no-haggle purchase and I believe the dealer gets a little extra kicked back for taking care of the transaction. It can be a win-win.
Like I said in my post. I am a FORD guy. However, the wife liked the heated seats in the Chevy better and it is her daily driver. Isn't that pitiful?
03-04-2002, 06:33 PM
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GottaHaveIt,
Great looking rig!!!!!!! May 1st. is too far away.
9 Deg here in Cincinnati this AM
I want to hook up and see what it will do. I also want to take some pix's.
As my wife drives this thing more and more 5 foot 100 lbs, she is the queen of the world and the world has to get out of her way.
If you see a Suburban with OHIO tages and a prop on the hitch
a lady behind the wheel,,,,, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!
Thanks again Chris and pray for spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great looking rig!!!!!!! May 1st. is too far away.
9 Deg here in Cincinnati this AM
I want to hook up and see what it will do. I also want to take some pix's.
As my wife drives this thing more and more 5 foot 100 lbs, she is the queen of the world and the world has to get out of her way.
If you see a Suburban with OHIO tages and a prop on the hitch
a lady behind the wheel,,,,, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!
Thanks again Chris and pray for spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-05-2002, 08:31 PM
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Hey MAC
I pulled my 312 with a Lincoln Navigator for 2 years. I upgraded the factory hitch to a 10,000 non-load assisted hitch. The Gator comes with the 5.7L engine (I think) and the air suspension stock. Plus..........it has nice cup holders and leather!
03-05-2002, 09:29 PM
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TRUCKS
I HAVE A 2000 4BY 4 FORD F350 WITH POWERSTROKE WE PULL ALL TYPE OF BOAT FROM 45 SONIC TO 42 CIG AND 40 SEARAY ALL YOU NEED IS A GOOD TRAILER WITH BRAKES ANY LONG WHEEL BASE TRUCK WILL WORK FOR YOU I WAS GM GUY TILL WE GOT THIS FORD TRUCK I WILL NEVER BUY A GM AGAIN
03-07-2002, 12:33 AM
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53fordf100
I also have a GM '99 - yukon. Put Roadmaster spring assists in the rear. Awsome product - great result - I tow my 232 formula (6-6500 wet) like its not there. The rear springs stock are just too soft for ride purposes and I was getting a sway at 67mph. The spring assists are progessive so the ride is only a bit firmer, reduces body roll significantly cornering without the trailer too. Put larger michelins on it and now I don't ever want to sell the truck. The 350 small block is a great tow engine, torque comes in nice and low.
Now If I could just beef up the rear end....
I also have a GM '99 - yukon. Put Roadmaster spring assists in the rear. Awsome product - great result - I tow my 232 formula (6-6500 wet) like its not there. The rear springs stock are just too soft for ride purposes and I was getting a sway at 67mph. The spring assists are progessive so the ride is only a bit firmer, reduces body roll significantly cornering without the trailer too. Put larger michelins on it and now I don't ever want to sell the truck. The 350 small block is a great tow engine, torque comes in nice and low.
Now If I could just beef up the rear end....
03-08-2002, 06:14 PM
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PhantomChaos...
Great looking rig!!!!! I also upgraded to the 10K non-load assisted hitch. How does she pull? Any sway? Looks like we have the same trailer. I was in Melbourne FL all week, great weather. 70 and sunny. Saw boat after boat going down I 95 at 80 MPH.......
Come on SPRING!
Great looking rig!!!!! I also upgraded to the 10K non-load assisted hitch. How does she pull? Any sway? Looks like we have the same trailer. I was in Melbourne FL all week, great weather. 70 and sunny. Saw boat after boat going down I 95 at 80 MPH.......
Come on SPRING!
03-11-2002, 10:06 PM
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If your looking to buy a Ford the max towing capacity for a properly equipped Expedition is 8000 pounds so thats out. Now you have to figure out if you want a pickup or suv. I would prefer the Excursion but which ever one you get make sure it is equipped with a trailer tow package and more important make sure it has at least a 373 or numerically higher gear ratio ! As far as diesel or gas I would recommend the V 10 over the diesel any day! They are both have a lot of pulling power but any money you save in gas mileage with the diesel will be lost & then some when it comes time for diesel maintainance, repairs, and other diesel related problems ! Bo knows !
