Is the cam change worth it?
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Is the cam change worth it?
27' baja, twin 350 mags, 1987, all stock. running 64gps.
looking at this comp cam CCA-12-236-3
Specifications:
* Advertised duration: 262 intake/268 exhaust
* Duration at .050 in. cam lift: 218 intake/224 exhaust
* Gross valve lift: .462 in. intake/.477 in. exhaust
* Lobe separation: 112 degrees
* RPM range: 1,300 to 5,500
* Biggest cam for inboard/outboard
* Good mid range with excellent response, noticeable idle
Is this the best cam for my app, and do you think i would see enough difference in speed to make it worth the switch?
what would you guess on a speed change?
looking at this comp cam CCA-12-236-3
Specifications:
* Advertised duration: 262 intake/268 exhaust
* Duration at .050 in. cam lift: 218 intake/224 exhaust
* Gross valve lift: .462 in. intake/.477 in. exhaust
* Lobe separation: 112 degrees
* RPM range: 1,300 to 5,500
* Biggest cam for inboard/outboard
* Good mid range with excellent response, noticeable idle
Is this the best cam for my app, and do you think i would see enough difference in speed to make it worth the switch?
what would you guess on a speed change?
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MarineKinetics
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1987 was the transition year for the roller conversion in the SBC. Most of the 1987s (but not all) came with the roller. The 12-236-3 is a hyd flat. I would verify what cam is in the engine now before you decide on an upgrade.
Bob
1987 was the transition year for the roller conversion in the SBC. Most of the 1987s (but not all) came with the roller. The 12-236-3 is a hyd flat. I would verify what cam is in the engine now before you decide on an upgrade.
Bob
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damn i just looked at the price difference on the flat vs roller.
im trying to pick up 3-5 mph, do you think this is the best way to go about that on a 350 mag?
im trying to pick up 3-5 mph, do you think this is the best way to go about that on a 350 mag?
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MarineKinetics
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Check your pushrod length.
OEM flat 7.794"
OEM roller 7.195"
If you are OEM roller you wont need the retro kit and the costs will be reduced significantly.
Bob
Check your pushrod length.
OEM flat 7.794"
OEM roller 7.195"
If you are OEM roller you wont need the retro kit and the costs will be reduced significantly.
Bob
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If you are looking for 3-5 mph on a stock setup, an alternative way that I usually try first is to upgrade exhaust and props. If you have stock exhausts, you could go to something like EMI exhaust or something similiar, which would drop the weight of each engine by 60-70 lbs, and add approx 10% more HP. Removing 130-140 lbs of weight alone from the stern of the boat will help significantly, along with a few extra ponies from the exhaust performance. Merc stock style exhausts are the worst for performance. Also, not sure about the cam you mentioned, but if you go too big on the cam, you can create a reversion condition (aka suck water up into the motor) which requires upgraded exhaust to fix anyways.
Also if you may be able to pick up more speed by changing props. Obviously try the new props after the exhaust change if you go that route, as you may be able to go up in pitch.
My philosophy is just try to stick with the "bolt on" upgrades first before tearing into the motors.
Also if you may be able to pick up more speed by changing props. Obviously try the new props after the exhaust change if you go that route, as you may be able to go up in pitch.
My philosophy is just try to stick with the "bolt on" upgrades first before tearing into the motors.
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The least expensive way to increase the performance of your roller cam engine is to remove the camshaft and send it to Comp Cams for regrinding. They will charge you a reasonable amount and you won't have to pay for a new cam core. Use your old lifters and install the recommended valve springs.
Have them grind it to the same specs as the 08-422-8 XR276 HR camshaft.
Regrinding the old camshaft works great and you will be sure that it is compatible with your distributor gear and fuel pump pushrod.
The XR276 HR specs are the same as the specs you mentioned but with 110 centerlines (better for low speed torque).
Sincerely
Dennis Moore
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The stock Chevy/Mercruiser camshaft is ground on 109 degree centerlines and has plenty of base circle to increase valve lift and duration on a regrind.
The least expensive way to increase the performance of your roller cam engine is to remove the camshaft and send it to Comp Cams for regrinding. They will charge you a reasonable amount and you won't have to pay for a new cam core. Use your old lifters and install the recommended valve springs.
Have them grind it to the same specs as the 08-422-8 XR276 HR camshaft.
Regrinding the old camshaft works great and you will be sure that it is compatible with your distributor gear and fuel pump pushrod.
The XR276 HR specs are the same as the specs you mentioned but with 110 centerlines (better for low speed torque).
Sincerely
Dennis Moore
P.S.
The stock Chevy/Mercruiser camshaft is ground on 109 degree centerlines and has plenty of base circle to increase valve lift and duration on a regrind.
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Hey Dennis,
You may have an idea for me too.
Is there enough meat on a L-29 BBC cam to have it reground?
I may just give comp cams a call...
You may have an idea for me too.
Is there enough meat on a L-29 BBC cam to have it reground?
I may just give comp cams a call...
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For my Chevy 350 bored over .040. 2000lb donzi like boat, apha drive.
Spent alot of time with Jegs and Comp cam looking to replace my cam and suggestion was to use Comp Cams 12-240-4 Numbers are
.480 intake / .489 exhaust
226 intake / 236 duration duration
112 LSA
All with Edelbrock performer Heads, Performer Intake and Holley 750 double Pumper with 4 inch exhaust, and MSD ignition
Spent alot of time with Jegs and Comp cam looking to replace my cam and suggestion was to use Comp Cams 12-240-4 Numbers are
.480 intake / .489 exhaust
226 intake / 236 duration duration
112 LSA
All with Edelbrock performer Heads, Performer Intake and Holley 750 double Pumper with 4 inch exhaust, and MSD ignition