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Originally posted by Clackster
That still makes it legal?........ That is if your wording is per the rules.
............Damn, already excluded.....What does that tell Ya.
That still makes it legal?........ That is if your wording is per the rules.
............Damn, already excluded.....What does that tell Ya.
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Excluded because they are so much more advanced than the average vee hull built here in the States.
Not to mention, the Bat Boats already have classes to race in. "One Design" and any of the "P-Classes"
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Hey kryptonite know anyone taking trades on 36 outlaws?baby three on the way,wife will not be on board this year,building 509 naturals now but always liked your 29 footer easy to tow and fast.
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To all potential SOB's
A final meeting between SharkeyMarine, Myself and the Board Members of OPA will be happening very very soon. Sorry for the delay but now it is full speed ahead. We will keep everyone informed on the information that comes out of this meeting. All I can say now is that things look very good for the SOB's in 2004.
DPT
A final meeting between SharkeyMarine, Myself and the Board Members of OPA will be happening very very soon. Sorry for the delay but now it is full speed ahead. We will keep everyone informed on the information that comes out of this meeting. All I can say now is that things look very good for the SOB's in 2004.
DPT
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DPT Motorsports and myself met with OPA officials yesterday to hear what they were willing to do for the SOBs.
It's official!!!
They are willing to let the SOBs race within their organization.
Here is what they have come up with:
As far as the rules for SOB, they were in agreement with the SOB Rules Proposal were had offered them.
There were only 4 things that needed to be changed from those rules.
1. Minimum length will be 21 feet with a Max of 24 feet. They will use the round up method if a boat measures 20 foot 6.5 inches, it will be rounded to 21 feet.
2. Mandatory: 2 Crew Onboard. It will be mandatory for 2 people to be in the boat while racing. There will not be an option for only one person.
This was OPA's as well as the insurance carrier's decision. I personally asked two of the medic's opinions, and they too also wanted to see two people in the boat.
3. No Capped Speed or Bracket Racing for this class(3 races only) It has been decided to allow this for the calm water race sites only.
3 of the sites that are ocean races will fall under the P-5 max average speed of 65 mph. Again, the Insurance Liability as well as Safety was a big decision maker here. We all know no one would even come close to 65mph in rough ocean conditions, but this is just making sure of no one trying to. The 3 races with this cap will be enforced with GPS supplied by OPA.
4. Race distance 40 miles The total distance will be 40 miles not 60 or a 1 hour time limit. Also subject to change at the discretion of OPA at each race site depending on sea conditions.
So in a a nut shell, here is what you have.
SOB's are welcome to come race in all 6 races.
The rough water races, the SOB's will not have their own race. They are invited to race under P-5 and have the option to be scored separately as well as be scored in P-5 to race for the purse of that event. ( The reasoning behind this is, if the course is rough and they try to run two races, they are afraid of losing too many volunteers by the time the second race comes out. To sit out in the ocean for an entire day while it's rough can be a burden to most volunteers. If over time they have more volunteers for the water operations where they may have separate shifts for the volunteers, that may change in the future. As of right now, they will only offer the one race at the rough water races.)
The other 3 events which are calm water races, the SOBs will have their own individual class. Although no prize money will be awarded unless the site itself offers a separate purse for the class. Example: Cambridge, MD offers their Local Class a separate purse.
OPA will be picking up the additional costs to run the SOBs in their own class. (Helicopter and Insurance Premiums) The means of paying for it will come from the $500 per race entry fee. It will not interfere with the existing P-1 thru P-5 class's purse or add any additional costs onto the other classes.
If for any reason that the SOB's race were to be cancelled by OPA or the Coast Guard deeming the course to be too rough for 21 footers, the registration money for that race will be forwarded to the next race's registration. You will not loose your registration money if the race is blown out.
OPA's Equipment Requirements Please contact OPA for their rule book. Offshore Performance Association's Link
Additional Prizes Other than actual cash prizes, contingency prizes may be awarded on a per class basis. It will not have to be shared with any of the other classes.
If for example Mercury or a SOB manufacture wanted to step in and offer 1st place of SOB X amount of dollars in "Parts or Merchandise" they can do that. It is advised that they contact OPA for this type of an incentive because they are already setting up different types of contigency prizes for each class. Last year, one person ended up with $1500 in parts from JESEL. Not bad for only running someone's decal on their boat.
Also a Hi-Points Trophy for total points accumulated over the season will be awarded at the end of the season.
Stay Informed!!! Get on the mailing list by using this link:NJ Offshore & OPA Informational Mailing List
I hope this will satisfy most of you, and you will come out and race.
If the response and participation is great this year, you have a great opportunity to grow and make some changes along the way.
Good Luck to all of you!
It is now up to you to make the next move. Start by getting registered for the season.
Annual Equipment fee $450.00
Annual Membership fee $100.00
Annual GPS fee $ To be determined (No more than $150) We asked for a reduced rate being as the SOB's would only need it for 3 races when they race in P-5
Entry fee per race $500.00 Includes Insurance, Helicopters, Race Parties but not a purse unless you race in P5.
It's official!!!
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They are willing to let the SOBs race within their organization.
Here is what they have come up with:
As far as the rules for SOB, they were in agreement with the SOB Rules Proposal were had offered them.
There were only 4 things that needed to be changed from those rules.
1. Minimum length will be 21 feet with a Max of 24 feet. They will use the round up method if a boat measures 20 foot 6.5 inches, it will be rounded to 21 feet.
2. Mandatory: 2 Crew Onboard. It will be mandatory for 2 people to be in the boat while racing. There will not be an option for only one person.
This was OPA's as well as the insurance carrier's decision. I personally asked two of the medic's opinions, and they too also wanted to see two people in the boat.
3. No Capped Speed or Bracket Racing for this class(3 races only) It has been decided to allow this for the calm water race sites only.
3 of the sites that are ocean races will fall under the P-5 max average speed of 65 mph. Again, the Insurance Liability as well as Safety was a big decision maker here. We all know no one would even come close to 65mph in rough ocean conditions, but this is just making sure of no one trying to. The 3 races with this cap will be enforced with GPS supplied by OPA.
4. Race distance 40 miles The total distance will be 40 miles not 60 or a 1 hour time limit. Also subject to change at the discretion of OPA at each race site depending on sea conditions.
So in a a nut shell, here is what you have.
SOB's are welcome to come race in all 6 races.
The rough water races, the SOB's will not have their own race. They are invited to race under P-5 and have the option to be scored separately as well as be scored in P-5 to race for the purse of that event. ( The reasoning behind this is, if the course is rough and they try to run two races, they are afraid of losing too many volunteers by the time the second race comes out. To sit out in the ocean for an entire day while it's rough can be a burden to most volunteers. If over time they have more volunteers for the water operations where they may have separate shifts for the volunteers, that may change in the future. As of right now, they will only offer the one race at the rough water races.)
The other 3 events which are calm water races, the SOBs will have their own individual class. Although no prize money will be awarded unless the site itself offers a separate purse for the class. Example: Cambridge, MD offers their Local Class a separate purse.
OPA will be picking up the additional costs to run the SOBs in their own class. (Helicopter and Insurance Premiums) The means of paying for it will come from the $500 per race entry fee. It will not interfere with the existing P-1 thru P-5 class's purse or add any additional costs onto the other classes.
If for any reason that the SOB's race were to be cancelled by OPA or the Coast Guard deeming the course to be too rough for 21 footers, the registration money for that race will be forwarded to the next race's registration. You will not loose your registration money if the race is blown out.
OPA's Equipment Requirements Please contact OPA for their rule book. Offshore Performance Association's Link
Additional Prizes Other than actual cash prizes, contingency prizes may be awarded on a per class basis. It will not have to be shared with any of the other classes.
If for example Mercury or a SOB manufacture wanted to step in and offer 1st place of SOB X amount of dollars in "Parts or Merchandise" they can do that. It is advised that they contact OPA for this type of an incentive because they are already setting up different types of contigency prizes for each class. Last year, one person ended up with $1500 in parts from JESEL. Not bad for only running someone's decal on their boat.
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Also a Hi-Points Trophy for total points accumulated over the season will be awarded at the end of the season.
Stay Informed!!! Get on the mailing list by using this link:NJ Offshore & OPA Informational Mailing List
I hope this will satisfy most of you, and you will come out and race.
If the response and participation is great this year, you have a great opportunity to grow and make some changes along the way.
Good Luck to all of you!
It is now up to you to make the next move. Start by getting registered for the season.
Annual Equipment fee $450.00
Annual Membership fee $100.00
Annual GPS fee $ To be determined (No more than $150) We asked for a reduced rate being as the SOB's would only need it for 3 races when they race in P-5
Entry fee per race $500.00 Includes Insurance, Helicopters, Race Parties but not a purse unless you race in P5.
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Rules For The SOB Class
Hulls:
Any conventional vee bottom stepped or padded allowed
Minimum length: 21 feet inches
Maximum length: 24 ft 0 inches
“Vee-Hull Designs Only” No Wing Styled Boats, Tunnel-Vees or Catamarans
No Minimum Weight
Hydraulic Jacks Plates allowed
Set-back brackets allowed
Crew onboard: Mandatory 2 people.
No letters, Number only to minimum height set by Sanctioning Body’s Rules Leave room in front of Number if you choose to run in P5 at anytime.
Remote water pickups allowed
No Capped Speed or Bracket racing for this class except at the 3 rough water race sites.
Engines:
Any Single Outboard Engine by any Manufacturer
Any octane pump gasoline only (No alcohol, nitros, etc.)
Races:
Courses to be determined by sanctioning body
Depending on the number of entries, it is 1st choice to run this class by itself.
Distance same as P5 class 40 miles
Safety:
Follow All Safety Rules and Equipment requirements of the sanctioning body.
Hulls:
Any conventional vee bottom stepped or padded allowed
Minimum length: 21 feet inches
Maximum length: 24 ft 0 inches
“Vee-Hull Designs Only” No Wing Styled Boats, Tunnel-Vees or Catamarans
No Minimum Weight
Hydraulic Jacks Plates allowed
Set-back brackets allowed
Crew onboard: Mandatory 2 people.
No letters, Number only to minimum height set by Sanctioning Body’s Rules Leave room in front of Number if you choose to run in P5 at anytime.
Remote water pickups allowed
No Capped Speed or Bracket racing for this class except at the 3 rough water race sites.
Engines:
Any Single Outboard Engine by any Manufacturer
Any octane pump gasoline only (No alcohol, nitros, etc.)
Races:
Courses to be determined by sanctioning body
Depending on the number of entries, it is 1st choice to run this class by itself.
Distance same as P5 class 40 miles
Safety:
Follow All Safety Rules and Equipment requirements of the sanctioning body.
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This boat will sure turn some heads this season: