frickstyle

Thinking about it.

With the amount of money I have into it, it's hard to let go for market rate, therefore I think it's priced out of reality, leaving me "stuck" with that boat. It will never be worth more than it is now - and there are some major upgrades / repairs to it this offseason which basically make it a new boat inside and out.

I don't think I'm ready for a CAT because I still want a cabin. the short list would be 41 Apache, 39 Top Gun, 42X, 42 to 46 or 47 OL, 43 Nortech. All of those models are quite a significant jump in pricing, and the old Apache is just another full project / headache. So, put it up for sale and run it because it will most likely not trade at what I'm willing to part with. Someone who knew what they were looking at and "had to have it" may be willing to meet me somewhere $-wise that would make sense. This one was a serious project and every year it gets something major improved / upgraded / replaced / repaired. I liked the process, but it took forever and kept me off the water a few seasons.

I'll get it running and right and then probably post an ad. With my limited time because of work, I'm not interested doing seatrials and such on the weekends. IF someone is serious, then I'm interested to talk to them. It's hard to price these, and I see the other three models that are similar like the 90mph in FLA, the original "90" red/white boat, and the other big power Cig are trading very low in my opinion (or not moving at all). But the market sets the price. I don't know of another non-step that has the amount of work mine does. Maybe Dan's Flat Deck. This one would take a special buyer, someone that doesn't want a project and can have a hot rod with everything sorted out and all the monies spent. I stopped keeping track 3 years ago because it was pointless.

Already thinking of fuel injection next.

YTown42X

I agree with you that the boat is perfect. Work was done right and the pictures look amazing. When we sold our 2000 I felt it went too cheap but it was time to move on. We have always been cigarette people. Love the brand. But it was time for a new challenge so we swallowed hard and let her go. I hope to someone who will love it like we did. I’m getting adjusted to a cat now and it has been exciting and concerning all at one. Taking it slow so I don’t hurt myself or worse someone else. But with your years of boating you will be fine in whatever you get into. And you make a very valid point that if you need the cabin then a cat is out. I never stay on the boat so it was a no issue to us. Either way we boat in the same area so I’ll keep an eye out for you at the Casino or PIB. Best of luck and love your boat.


and let me know about the fuel injection. We are in the same boat and was curious when I would possibly do the upgrade

Full Force

Keep it... money spent and selling price too far apart, efi? Nice but why did d 20,000 more at this point? Get in and enjoy it, you deserve to..

frickstyle

that’s the thing, it’s not 20 grand anymore and the equipment has become a lot easier to install and manage. 5 years ago I’d probably agree with you. You haven’t had to dock a big power boat with carbs and one person helping watch so you don’t scratch paint. Then factor in a windy or rough day. Try giving it gas so it doesn’t stall in gear and making sure you don’t hit anything. Not that much fun. It’s more of a usability and safety thing with me. I could care less about making any more power. Also, the things run so rich you get fuel in the oil. Spend $10k to save $80k engines, seems like a pretty smart move.

frickstyle

Ytown - yes, absolutely we’ll catch up this summer, would like to check out your new ride.

ask dan about the fuel injection. That’s the kit I would go with. Holley.

Twin O/B Sonic

Been there w/some of my smaller OB projects.

Pretty well sucks.

I remember yrs back seeing the high HP IO boats struggling around dock.
Its easy to make big power w/big cu ins but to make it idle and handle load at idle, as in shifting...., w/o dying..., you’re doing something then.
Now add wind and maybe no crew....., that’ll get your pulse up.

Youre right on the new add on EFI systems too.
Their self learning/tuning abilities are amazing.

Good luck w/your rig, I hope you get it where you want it. It takes a ton of work and as much money.

Lots more people talking/posting **** than actually doing it.

You might be surprised what you can get for it too.
Enough people see what it takes to get there, sometimes you just hold your breath and ask your price.

I did that w/my twin OB 24’ Sonic in Fla.

I know it’s 1/10 what you have but I had people telling me I’d never get more than $10k for it (what they were going for) when I listed mine for $20.
I stuck to my guns and got $20.

lightning jet

I'm fighting the same fuel issues with my belt driven air cleaners ,dock handling sucks and fat at idle I'm installing programmable ignition with map sensors to get ahead of this problem way less expensive then full fuel injection......stay healthy bro see you this summer

Full Force

Big power don’t matter, stalling engines are stalling engines... I been there too... and came in one one way more then I care to Remember with no steering, either way it can be helped I know tons guys with carbs that idle ok, or just convert it. Either way I hope you get it taken care of..

See ya soon!!

J-Bonz

hah, our old gun would conch out so much it felt like I was driving a boat with crash box’s...

Twin O/B Sonic

W/carbs, a lot of it is being good or having a guy that is, w/tuning.

I did a hot rod OB project w/fully programmable EFI.
$3500 for the kit.

It was a way cool system for racing, but sucked for pleasure.
I could trim/add fuel every 300 r’s.

Problem was, its only real self tuning feature was the TPS.
The dealer for them convinced me that’s all you need.

W/a highly modded 2 stroke OB, your difference from a safe tune to nuked pistons is nothing.
Theyre basically trying to melt down all the time.
Ive melted them down before the EGT’s even reacted.

After a yr of tuning, I could tune carbs to better compensate for changes in load, than what that EFI would do.

I know it’s apples to oranges but, carbureted Motors are carbureted Motors.

Weve lived w/them for a 100 yrs.

There are six one barrel carbs on my motors.
They have idle, mid, hi speed circuits.

The latest/best have adjustable idle air bleed screws in place of fixed jets in previous versions.

Improperly tuned, they stall at dock and run stupid rich.
Done properly, once warm, they are virtually smoke free and idle like a Singer sewing machine.

I figured out the trick was, get motor to operating temp, tie it to dock, and let idle in gear while I adjust idle screws.
A lot of people did all this but the running in gear part.
Theyd jet w/them idling in neutral.
Problem is, a motor needs/wants way more fuel to idle in gear/under load.
If you jet for neutral, you put it in gear, it goes lean, runs out of fuel and dies.

I had a ‘68 Super Bee that I built a 500 HP, 7k rpm 440 for and put a Holley six pack on.
As in three two barrels.

Once I figured out how to tune them, it drove/carbureted like a new street car.

I think I’d be doing the same thing w/twin big (or mid) power IO’s.
Take your jet kit, and head to the dock.
If it’s on a trailer, find a secluded ramp, and tune it while still strapped to the trailer.