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Old 02-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenderjack
What is the issue with 650 or less? If the boat is going to have a monitored GPS in it, what difference does it make as to the HP? It would all come down to propping correctly, not to mention most 20-26 ft boats will run 70 with less hp then that. Not trying to start anything, just curious as to that thought.

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Because a 800 HP motor will accelerate better than my 496 Mag HO, even though I can easily hit 70 MPH. We are trying to even the playing field. It is never going to be equal due to various hulls, etc... but if everyone will stick around 650 HP, we will have some great deck to deck racing. This issue has been around since the beginning of the class, so they are not just arbitrarily picking a number. There is some though to it.

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Old 02-14-2012, 05:00 PM
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In all reality this WILL COST US MORE

730/740hp Pump gas was fine..

650hp we are now forced to run race gas and Hi Compression to match the acceleration of other
race fuel running boats.

With this run we are going from a 150/200$ a weekend gas bill to 500/600$ a week

so this will cost an extra $3200.00 (approx) a season. Unless we enforce the "Pump Gas Run"
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:35 PM
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I have 720HP do you really think 650 HP is going to save you if you have 450 -525 HP why change the whole class and have everyone change their motors around.They made the rules 6 or 7 years ago for the class get in the game nobody said racing was cheap. What about the guys with lighter boats my boat weighed 4700 going in at Orange Beach. I took a picture of PFE the other day when they heard my motor on the Dyno !!!
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So Tyler, Gary has had that big melon and little, well never mind since he was a baby ??????
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Originally Posted by TylerCrockett
I have 720HP do you really think 650 HP is going to save you if you have 450 -525 HP why change the whole class and have everyone change their motors around.They made the rules 6 or 7 years ago for the class get in the game nobody said racing was cheap. What about the guys with lighter boats my boat weighed 4700 going in at Orange Beach. I took a picture of PFE the other day when they heard my motor on the Dyno !!!
The advantage to the proposed 650 is that if everybody complies , no more gps.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:31 PM
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Anthony S. had the whole thing figured out in 2005, hull slip, prop pitch and rev limiter, he would tell you what you had to run for a prop and your rev, chip, then would check this before racing. Everyone was within a couple of MPH, no one complained, and it was great racing without a gps.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:47 PM
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Only problem with racing up against a rev. limit is valvetrain reliability. Nicest thing about OPA is the lack of need to build high strung race motors that need a ton of maintence.Weve done oil changes and tune ups to our race motor, all its needed.
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Originally Posted by scarab63
The advantage to the proposed 650 is that if everybody complies , no more gps.
I want to make sure I understand this correctly... no more GPS??? So that means that the "Class 6" boats will be running faster than the Class 5 boats during the race. Simple math, 650 hp would put you guys in the 80-85 mph range(with no GPS) Now this is starting to make no sense at all. Can I run my 26' 10" boat with a stock sealed 500 EFI if you guys run heads up, hell I dont think I could even keep up with you, being as underpowered that I would be Come on guys... its only 10" inches

And you guys are still on the Prop Dyno kick? Why cant the SVL's pull their motors and get them Dynoed properly. Randy for example sent a 500(F1) and a 525(F1) to Sarasota to be dynoed and sealed, then a 525(SVL) to Fond Du Lac to get the same... Now its an issue for these guys to pull their motors and get them done properly???????(not picking on Randy, just pointing out that at least one of them knows how to properly do it right)

I know of a lot better things that OPA can do with the 3-5 grand that it would cost initially, then the added expense of transporting. All this does is contribute to our ALL of our fees going up, maybe not tomorrow, but in the future as the money has to come from somewhere, its bad enough that classes are being added which takes away from every classes purse and makes them lower now, as I said, it has to come from somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Fenderjack
What is the issue with 650 or less? If the boat is going to have a monitored GPS in it, what difference does it make as to the HP? It would all come down to propping correctly, not to mention most 20-26 ft boats will run 70 with less hp then that. Not trying to start anything, just curious as to that thought.

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A 90mph boat will go 70mph tucked in tabs down. A 70mph boat has to be loosened up to go 70. The locked in boat will win
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Originally Posted by scarab63
The advantage to the proposed 650 is that if everybody complies , no more gps.
That wasnt said at the meeting...
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