Dave Kline

The tie down ring is nearly as low as it can go on our boat by my pictures as the boat is not at the house to measure it. It appears it would be less than and not more than an inch anyway. I was told that Powerquest worked to get the hull and props dialed in on this boat. Thanks Mary.
Dave

dfogarty

We travel for overnight's with mostly crusiers and the extra space in the cabin is not a turn on for us. But crusing at 50 mph is !! It's the difference of being on a Goldwing or being on a Harley with no helmet.

dfogarty

The other thing is that I have gone 70 mph maybe 3 times in my boat. It is a rush, but the fuel you use is unbelivable. So a boat that gets good mileage at 50 is much more useable.

bcarpman

Sorry if I misunderstand, but are you saying the Avenger does, or does not get reasonble fuel usage at 50mph? Obviously "reasonable" is relative

I've got friends with 100mph+ boats and sometimes when they zip accross the lake at 80, it would be cool to be able to keep up at least a little, regardless of fuel usage. Heck what's $50 worth of fuel for a 10 minute run really mean when you're paying $600 a month (all year for 4 months of usage), $2400 for a slip, $1000 for winter storage, and $5000 for misc. maintanance???

Someone tell me again why I want to move up to a bigger boat??

cbgenrl

I like both boats...

I doubt you will see 80gps (I would guess 75) with 500's and running 10 minutes balls out is much more expensive then $50 these days

But screw it, let em eat!!!!

performancemary

I Have Had Both, No Significent Diff Between The Viper Or Avenger If You Have The Same Motors

dfogarty

The fuel consumption on my avenger at 50 mph is what I would consider excellent. The fuel consumption at 70 or near my top end is terrible. My point was that I love to go fast too but everytime you go fast it seems not as fast because you get used to it. I'm not full of ****, it's just fact and with today's fuel prices I would rather use my boat at 50 miles an hour than 70 miles an hour. I must admit I'm 52 now and I have been there and done that. But I do know what other people are coming from.

dfogarty

And too performancemary, You said the 34 and 38 are comparible with the same power? I totally disagree with you.
The Avenger is a much better boat, simply because of it's length and weight. It handles the waters of Green Bay and lake Michigan much better than the 34. If you don't think so there was something wrong with your 38!

dfogarty

Bcarpman,
Go ahead and by a nice 38 Powerquest that is in good shape with the right props and enjoy the ride. It was a dream of my wife and mine and we did just that 4 years ago and we have had the time of our lives. Their is nothing better than a big block or big block's to get the excitement up.

Dave Kline

I agree, we bought a PQ 270 Laser new in 1998 and it soon became our dream to own the AVENGER. After 7 years of driving all over the countryside looking at them we finally found the one at Great Lakes Marina in Muskegon MC in Oct. 2006. We too are having the time of our lives with our Avenger. After 30 hours no issues other than changing water pump impellars which is a whole lot easier than on the 27. I love the sound of the big blocks echoing off each other as we run across the water. We don't push her hard usually run in the 3200 to 4000 rpm range 44 to 62 mph and experience good fuel economy for a boat this size. With 28p lab props and 502s she runs an honest 74.1 GPS whenever we get the need for speed, which at 53 years old is a fast boat to me. The 38 wins over the 34 hands down, longer hull = smoother ride and the stepped hull carves out turns tight and true unlike some other stepped hulls out there. GET AN AVENGER you,ll love it except on those 90 plus degree days when you pull her out for the wipe down.
Dave Kline
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