Viperchad

Hey guys...getting real close to pulling the trigger on a new rig for this summer. Been looking at several other boats including Fountain and Black Thunder. Can anyone give me some insight on the 40V? I get the whole fact that the company is out of business....hulls have been known to crack etc. Can anyone put me in touch with touch with the guy who may have built the boat? It's a 2003. Trying to get an idea of what the boat will run top end how much it weighs etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Boats look pretty cool, just not sure if the cost savings it worth it over the long haul with regards to hold up, resale etc.

Thanks

4bus

This is your guy
http://www.nauticalracinggroup.com/about.html

He purchased every thing "profile" and started this company. I believe he also worked for profile at one time.

I am sure you already know, but just in case you do not...the 40 is the exact same boat as the 37, only stretched in the engine compartment for an optional stagger set up. When searching information on the 40, include the 37

Viperchad

That's a big help. Thanks for the info. This boat is not staggered. Not sure why??

4bus

The 40 "could be staggered" with the extra room, it was still an option that added cost to the boat. As you have probably noticed profile did not cater to the "no expense spared" market, they were more for the price conscious buyer. I do not know how many staggered 40's are out there, I have only seen pictures of 1

If the 2003 that you are looking at is priced at $79k I think it is way too much. With genuine merc power it might be worth it, but would still be high IMO.

Resale value on a profile is one thing, reselling in general is another....they are a hard sell. The 1998 40 foot offered for $49k has been for sale for 2 solid years....2 years!

At that price you are at the asking price of Stepped bottom 38 fountains and 38 hustlers, with merc power an more freeboard.

Viperchad

That's the boat! Motors were built by merc. Look pretty solid. Overall fit and finish looks a little average. What's the boat worth? What will it run?

4bus

Not for nothing, but whoever told you those are merc motors lied. I am not saying they aren't nice engines (cause they look great) but the average buyer would walk from this boat because the engines appear to be homemade. I see V-belts, ribbed 80's valve covers, and carbs in a 2003 boat. That is only a concern for resale for most, but reliability for some.

I have no idea what that boat would run for speed. Not even close to a clue.

Personally that boat is worth $50k on a clean deal, that is just my opinion.

They have two 38 fountains 99, and 2000 on that same site for $69k,

And with deals like this http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o49725-en.html What does that make the profile worth?

Viperchad

I've been told by several people that these motors were done by Mercury up in WI. Are you saying they are not? Becuase of the valve covers? Also, I see your point to a degree, but the colors on that cig are pretty bad...it's a salt water boat...and with that hull and those motors is a 75MPH boat at best. I think the two boats are worth about the same....no?

4bus

Open up the merc catalog and show me that model engine, or any carb big block made after 1998? I am not saying those are bad engines, I am not even saying they didnt start life as genuine merc engines. What I am saying is the general public would not consider them merc engines. Some don't care, most buyers do however, and it makes the boat worth less.

As far as what that profile is worth, it is worth what the buyer that wants it will pay. If you like the boat and feel it is a fair price, have it. It only has to please you.

You can't compare a cigarette to a profile, you just can't The link was more to show you were the market is, 3 years ago 20 year old top guns sold for over 6 figures. IMO a boat buyer has to be concerned about resale today, unless you are liquid. Getting out of a boat today is not easy. Nothing personal again profile, they are a hard sell, even profile owners will agree.

The NRG link I sent you, click on the 38 model. The picture you see is a boat I looked at last year. It needed new vinyl and a good cleaning. Ha boxes, XRs, big n/a power and came witb the trailer. I could ha e bought it for 26 grand and still passed. The boat is a 2000 model and was listed for sale at 39k for 3 months.

It sounds like I have something personal against profile, or pier 57. But that is not the case, I am looking out for you. I like the boats, like the lines, 79k is just way tok much in today's market IMO

Viperchad

Understood. I respect what you are saying. I agree. 79 is too much. The boat is very clean and has very low hours. However, putting a number on it that is what a Pantera 28 is worth would be a bit low. If the motors aren't genuine needs I think it's 65 today. If they are, the motors and drives alone are $45k. The hull has to be worth more than $10k though. I know the boat sold for $135k less than 2 years ago. I wish I could find the original owner

Viperchad

Meant genuine mercs