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Old 03-15-2006, 05:06 AM
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Tom, photos of my neighbors lift for the 46' Skater.
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Wow - where's that located? Looks real nice.
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Looks like a straight shot out too.

There are a couple lifts up here that are around
$5000 used mostly 8000-10000 floatation stuff.
V hull setups.

When something crosses my path I will pick one up.
8,000lbs is cutting it close.

My entire setup was weighed on the way up here
Came in at 14700lbs with the trailer and no
engines, But it did have a lot of turbine rigging in it.
Tanks were half full.

According to Skaters Web Site 5000lbs bare hull
is the weight of the 46.

Fully rigged 46 a guess would be 9000lbs


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Originally Posted by knot-right
Fully rigged 46 a guess would be 9000lbs
Think you might add at least a couple thousand pounds on that. All that we have weighed, pleasure and race, are heavy. The lightest 46's ever made were Alcone's & Barber's - 10,000 rigged - but they both delammed and/or broke. Peter told me that he won't lay them up that light anymore for that reason.
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Originally Posted by KiloKat
Think you might add at least a couple thousand pounds on that. All that we have weighed, pleasure and race, are heavy. The lightest 46's ever made were Alcone's & Barber's - 10,000 rigged - but they both delammed and/or broke. Peter told me that he won't lay them up that light anymore for that reason.


Great!....Thanks for the info.

This weighed 14700.

5000 for the trailer?
9700 boat. (no engines)

maybe even 13000 lbs
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Wow - where's that located? Looks real nice.
South Jersey ( Toms River area ) thats the Barnget Bay.
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Great!....Thanks for the info.
Gerry,
Nice boat! What turbines do you plan to run? Have you had a 46 before? If not, your going to love it.
Be sure to check the sponson bottoms very carefully to be sure it hasn't been water soaked. Skater does not paint these inside and almost all of them start to have potential de-lam problems after 4~6 years due to water laying in the sponson(s) after regular use, washing, rain, etc. What happens is water enters the sponson(s) through a deck hatch then tries to find the smallest pinhole or hairline crack in the lamination where it starts to soak the balsa - which is like a sponge. It's best to address this issue when new but it's easy to fix anytime by painting the inside of the sponsons. Then you don't have to worry about water, etc. laying in the boat. A picture of one of my painted 46 sponsons is below. Not a very good pic but you should be able to see the paint line.
Best of luck with the boat and be safe!
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Originally Posted by KiloKat
It's best to address this issue when new but it's easy to fix anytime by painting the inside of the sponsons. Then you don't have to worry about water, etc. laying in the boat.
Would you just use awlgrip or something similar? Is this primarily due to age or common with newer Skaters as well? Thanks!

P.S. Did you have the sponsons painted on your 40?

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Originally Posted by KiloKat
Gerry,
Nice boat! What turbines do you plan to run? Have you had a 46 before? If not, your going to love it.
Be sure to check the sponson bottoms very carefully to be sure it hasn't been water soaked. Skater does not paint these inside and almost all of them start to have potential de-lam problems after 4~6 years due to water laying in the sponson(s) after regular use, washing, rain, etc. What happens is water enters the sponson(s) through a deck hatch then tries to find the smallest pinhole or hairline crack in the lamination where it starts to soak the balsa - which is like a sponge. It's best to address this issue when new but it's easy to fix anytime by painting the inside of the sponsons. Then you don't have to worry about water, etc. laying in the boat. A picture of one of my painted 46 sponsons is below. Not a very good pic but you should be able to see the paint line.
Best of luck with the boat and be safe!
Dave

Thank you for the solid advice Dave!

I briefly spoke with Johny T. In regards to selecting the right
46.He helped me out. You know how S. Florida can be with Soggy Cats
This one past the Moisture meter with flying colors.
1 out of 4 Skaters checked
I actualy hired Ed Guadardo (the surgeon to go look
at one..Wanted 50K to fix it.
Here is some fun I have been having with Awlgrip.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...7&page=1&pp=20
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
Tom, photos of my neighbors lift for the 46' Skater.
Great looking lift. Great support structure for the wash rails. One thing you do not want to do is try to pull over it. It may not be down far enough or the prop wash may suck it back up. The cradles with the big wood bunks are a step away from floating.

Gerry, Dave is right about increasing the weight factor. I have a 16k lift for my 40 Skater.

The wash rails have a pretty good forward angle to them. The 46 may be similar to the 40. I had to have the front cables shortened by 4 inches. The cradle aligns with the profile of the boat while setting in the water. Therefore the cables stay alined on the pulley trolley.
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