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06-27-2010, 09:26 AM
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Interesting !
Does the fan pull or push air ? As the fan is push air into the bilge it may be competing with Bournellis Principle. Meaning, laminar flow from the deck. Or, airflow from on top of the deck that may produce a low pressure area at the grill.
As the fan is to pull air, is it possible it will create restriction ? Perhaps, ILO or in addition to the grill a reverse blower scoop would scavenge/draw airflow from the bilge.
Does the fan pull or push air ? As the fan is push air into the bilge it may be competing with Bournellis Principle. Meaning, laminar flow from the deck. Or, airflow from on top of the deck that may produce a low pressure area at the grill.
As the fan is to pull air, is it possible it will create restriction ? Perhaps, ILO or in addition to the grill a reverse blower scoop would scavenge/draw airflow from the bilge.
06-27-2010, 07:06 PM
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Knot, got question on vibration mount.
are they rated to hang a unit from them? i always thought they were supposed to have only downward load. the reason i ask is that i have Hardin Marine motor mount on BBCs and they mount the MSD boxes vertically. i've ran into problems when the isolation mounts broke. I've since increased the sized of the rubber mounts.
and in another boat I've been working on, I changed the spare MSD's to a flat mount so just in case so theres less of a chance of having the boxes break off and cause havoc.
it seems from your pictures your hanging the entire cooler and fan assembly.
are they rated to hang a unit from them? i always thought they were supposed to have only downward load. the reason i ask is that i have Hardin Marine motor mount on BBCs and they mount the MSD boxes vertically. i've ran into problems when the isolation mounts broke. I've since increased the sized of the rubber mounts.
and in another boat I've been working on, I changed the spare MSD's to a flat mount so just in case so theres less of a chance of having the boxes break off and cause havoc.
it seems from your pictures your hanging the entire cooler and fan assembly.
that the entire assembly would see. Considering they are directly
above the Turbine exhaust.
The mounts are rated for 150lbs each The picture is diseaving
they are about the size of one of those chocolate donuts you
get at the super mart.
I think you mean a shear load when you state "Downward load"
They are threw fastened with 3/8x 16 Stainless bolts.
I am more concerned with the plastic fan breaking off.
I got them at Mcmaster-carr.
Last edited by KNOT-RIGHT; 06-27-2010 at 07:29 PM.
06-27-2010, 07:28 PM
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Interesting !
Does the fan pull or push air ? As the fan is push air into the bilge it may be competing with Bournellis Principle. Meaning, laminar flow from the deck. Or, airflow from on top of the deck that may produce a low pressure area at the grill.
As the fan is to pull air, is it possible it will create restriction ? Perhaps, ILO or in addition to the grill a reverse blower scoop would scavenge/draw airflow from the bilge.
Does the fan pull or push air ? As the fan is push air into the bilge it may be competing with Bournellis Principle. Meaning, laminar flow from the deck. Or, airflow from on top of the deck that may produce a low pressure area at the grill.
As the fan is to pull air, is it possible it will create restriction ? Perhaps, ILO or in addition to the grill a reverse blower scoop would scavenge/draw airflow from the bilge.
Some other variables to consider how much air is the main turbine fresh airscoops pulling in? Would the air stall before them. I have 6- 4 inch transom vents. is the engine bay under negative or positive pressure?
I have since made cardboard templates that I am giving to my sheet metal guy to create a small scoop. I cannot go to high with
this fearing it will constrict the main turbine fresh air scoops/inlets
that the grates are directly inline with.
Yes fan does pull. In a static test for 20 minutes measuring the
in and the out of the cooler with a infer red gun. in was 201F
out was 181F. T-stats were overridden and boat was on trailer.
I could not push the airflow from the fan where it is mounted
because it would draw the heat from exhaust at idle and no wakes.
Going to run some in water tests this week.
Last edited by KNOT-RIGHT; 06-27-2010 at 09:13 PM. Reason: my spelling sucks
06-28-2010, 09:34 AM
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Excellent suggestion and quite frankly is exactly what Gary at Fliudyne suggested when given the photo of this.
Some other variables to consider how much air is the main turbine fresh airscoops pulling in? Would the air stall before them. I have 6- 4 inch transom vents. is the engine bay under negative or positive pressure?
I have since made cardboard templates that I am giving to my sheet metal guy to create a small scoop. I cannot go to high with
this fearing it will constrict the main turbine fresh air scoops/inlets
that the grates are directly inline with.
Yes fan does pull. In a static test for 20 minutes measuring the
in and the out of the cooler with a infer red gun. in was 201F
out was 181F. T-stats were overridden and boat was on trailer.
I could not push the airflow from the fan where it is mounted
because it would draw the heat from exhaust at idle and no wakes.
Going to run some in water tests this week.
Some other variables to consider how much air is the main turbine fresh airscoops pulling in? Would the air stall before them. I have 6- 4 inch transom vents. is the engine bay under negative or positive pressure?
I have since made cardboard templates that I am giving to my sheet metal guy to create a small scoop. I cannot go to high with
this fearing it will constrict the main turbine fresh air scoops/inlets
that the grates are directly inline with.
Yes fan does pull. In a static test for 20 minutes measuring the
in and the out of the cooler with a infer red gun. in was 201F
out was 181F. T-stats were overridden and boat was on trailer.
I could not push the airflow from the fan where it is mounted
because it would draw the heat from exhaust at idle and no wakes.
Going to run some in water tests this week.
07-07-2010, 12:12 AM
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Last edited by I'CE; 07-07-2010 at 12:16 AM.
07-13-2010, 12:33 PM
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Here is the full rap around windshield installed
its wrapped with 16 gauge 316 brushed stainless
around the full perimeter. I was going to form the stainless
band myself bought the stainless and all. Thought of the guy
who made my stainless intakes he banged it out in less then two hours charged me 180. What was I thinking?
It is 3/4 inch thick and formed with cast acrylic.
It should make a world of difference in the entire cockpit.
its wrapped with 16 gauge 316 brushed stainless
around the full perimeter. I was going to form the stainless
band myself bought the stainless and all. Thought of the guy
who made my stainless intakes he banged it out in less then two hours charged me 180. What was I thinking?
It is 3/4 inch thick and formed with cast acrylic.
It should make a world of difference in the entire cockpit.
I really like the paint, the colors and the design. Beautiful boat! :thumbsup:
07-13-2010, 01:20 PM
#648
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C,mon Keith Lets have Peter build us a new Carbon/ Kevlar
46 have Jim build some 703,s run some BPM,s Zeigart
shafts throw on some 5 axis props and go racing. KNOT-RIGHT
Sounds like a plan!
46 have Jim build some 703,s run some BPM,s Zeigart
shafts throw on some 5 axis props and go racing. KNOT-RIGHT
Sounds like a plan!
Last edited by Catmando; 07-15-2010 at 10:34 PM.
07-13-2010, 02:13 PM
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07-13-2010, 04:24 PM
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There is a 45 degree chamfer milled across the entire perimeter
in the earlier photos it is not visible.
These photos shows it a little better.
not bad advice on capping it with maybe a wide round molding.
in the earlier photos it is not visible.
These photos shows it a little better.
not bad advice on capping it with maybe a wide round molding.
