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Originally posted by Pat McPherson
I don't think a 30Y2K has ever been built as a twin.
I am sure that the stringer system will have to be a lot different. Maybe the cost is much higher because JC is deferring some of the design, and tooling costs???
I don't think a 30Y2K has ever been built as a twin.
I am sure that the stringer system will have to be a lot different. Maybe the cost is much higher because JC is deferring some of the design, and tooling costs???
Originally posted by Pat McPherson
I owned a 28' Cig with twin sbc and it was a great boat, however maintaining and feeding two was about double. My last two boats have been smaller 24' single bbc, and it will be a long time before I go back to twins.
As for as the handling around docks, I am sure twins are far better. I have not driven a 30' Superboat but I have driven a 29' Fountain. If the wind kicks up it can be a handful...
I owned a 28' Cig with twin sbc and it was a great boat, however maintaining and feeding two was about double. My last two boats have been smaller 24' single bbc, and it will be a long time before I go back to twins.
As for as the handling around docks, I am sure twins are far better. I have not driven a 30' Superboat but I have driven a 29' Fountain. If the wind kicks up it can be a handful...
Originally posted by Pat McPherson
Top speed is over rated in my opinion... I get much more of a rush catching air in the rough than a flat out run on glass. To each their own.
As far as how fast a 30' Superboat will run ??? To my knowledge, Mike's Zuperboat is the only to get close to the century mark. High 90's with a 750HP blower motor. Jcap's boat runs just shy of 90 with a 650HP blower motor. JC had some bad luck a few years back when making a speed run for Power Boat in a 750HP blower motor in a 30 Y2K. Told me she snapped a valve. How fast she would have run ??? I know he was hoping for 100.
Top speed is over rated in my opinion... I get much more of a rush catching air in the rough than a flat out run on glass. To each their own.
As far as how fast a 30' Superboat will run ??? To my knowledge, Mike's Zuperboat is the only to get close to the century mark. High 90's with a 750HP blower motor. Jcap's boat runs just shy of 90 with a 650HP blower motor. JC had some bad luck a few years back when making a speed run for Power Boat in a 750HP blower motor in a 30 Y2K. Told me she snapped a valve. How fast she would have run ??? I know he was hoping for 100.
Originally posted by Pat McPherson
In my opinion the 30Y2K is most attractive with a single 496/Bravo, that 50K- 60K price just can't be beet. If 68-72mph is not fast enough, well another 6K buys a Whipple charger.
In my opinion the 30Y2K is most attractive with a single 496/Bravo, that 50K- 60K price just can't be beet. If 68-72mph is not fast enough, well another 6K buys a Whipple charger.
One other thing... What is the layup of the $50,000 base model? Is it made with all plywood? If so, the added weight and vastly decreased life span makes me think the foam/balsa layup is the better value. John's website isn't very clear about the layup.
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One other thing... What is the layup of the $50,000 base model? Is it made with all plywood? If so, the added weight and vastly decreased life span makes me think the foam/balsa layup is the better value. John's website isn't very clear about the layup.
According to John, the $49,800 boat is his old race layup. Plenty strong for my purposes. As far as "decreased life span", my 1970 Donzi probably has a similar layup with lots of plywood. At age 34, it's holding up great, and spends most of it's time in the air!!
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As far as the construction materials on the 50k special I would think wood stringers, transom, and bulkheads, glassed hull deck and liner. I think this is more than adequate for the horsepower, but wouldn't go too crazy adding gobs of power for waterbodies larger than lakes. I wish I new exactly.
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The 50k deal, balsa cored bottom, glass sides, foam cored deck plywood stringers and bulkhead all glassed to the deck and hull(also glassed together).
As for twins 2 6.2 at 3500rpm burn alittle more than a 496 at 4500rpms, and I doubt it twice. Merc pricing, 6.2 w/bravo about 13k, 496HO w/bravo about 17k, if you have a 90mph boat you need external steering 5k(get this on a 496 maybe single ram 2500) xr upgrade about 3k. twins also add an extra grand or so in gauges.
As for rough water and weight twins may make the boat ass heavy and not fly as level, Active Thunder doesn't want twins in their 28 because it flys soo nice with a single.
As for docking, take your time and make sure you have a cleet midship.
To me the beauty of this boat is simplicity, hose the whole thing down when you are finished, not much to rot(all gell), cost, a 496 is very fuel eff. compaired to other BB, warentee 6 years, cruise at 50mph getting 3mpg all day, narrow beam(makes it ride like a bigger boat and dosent need Merc Racing to hit 70(cost), custom made not assembly line and it just looks sexy.
Twinn 6.2 w/bravos for 18k in boxes, buy them its a deal, bring them to JC and he'll put them in.
As for twins 2 6.2 at 3500rpm burn alittle more than a 496 at 4500rpms, and I doubt it twice. Merc pricing, 6.2 w/bravo about 13k, 496HO w/bravo about 17k, if you have a 90mph boat you need external steering 5k(get this on a 496 maybe single ram 2500) xr upgrade about 3k. twins also add an extra grand or so in gauges.
As for rough water and weight twins may make the boat ass heavy and not fly as level, Active Thunder doesn't want twins in their 28 because it flys soo nice with a single.
As for docking, take your time and make sure you have a cleet midship.
To me the beauty of this boat is simplicity, hose the whole thing down when you are finished, not much to rot(all gell), cost, a 496 is very fuel eff. compaired to other BB, warentee 6 years, cruise at 50mph getting 3mpg all day, narrow beam(makes it ride like a bigger boat and dosent need Merc Racing to hit 70(cost), custom made not assembly line and it just looks sexy.
Twinn 6.2 w/bravos for 18k in boxes, buy them its a deal, bring them to JC and he'll put them in.
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Hebert-- I agree with everything you have said! The boat is simple and sexy, not cluttered but clean.
I am actually pleased that the construction on the 30-y2k is as advanced as you said. That is good news! When John said older race boat on his website I was thinking 68-70 Magnum/Donzi. (which isn't bad by the way, just older).
Now, I just need to rob a bank to save for the down!
What about Insurance? SB30 - If you don't mind me asking, who are you insuring through? did they give you any problems?
I am actually pleased that the construction on the 30-y2k is as advanced as you said. That is good news! When John said older race boat on his website I was thinking 68-70 Magnum/Donzi. (which isn't bad by the way, just older).
Now, I just need to rob a bank to save for the down!
What about Insurance? SB30 - If you don't mind me asking, who are you insuring through? did they give you any problems?
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Hey Guys,
Maybe we should make a group trip to Lindenhurst this Spring and fill JC's capacity to build 30Y2Ks for the coming year... We'll hit him up for a group discount!!!
I have not talk to John about the differences between the older vs newer construction, only heard second hand info... I believe that there is added coring to the sides that stiffens the whole boat in the more expensive layup.
Maybe we should make a group trip to Lindenhurst this Spring and fill JC's capacity to build 30Y2Ks for the coming year... We'll hit him up for a group discount!!!
I have not talk to John about the differences between the older vs newer construction, only heard second hand info... I believe that there is added coring to the sides that stiffens the whole boat in the more expensive layup.
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