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Old 03-26-2008, 08:19 AM
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Democrats = Dead American Heros!!!!" The Truth Will Set You Free.
Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

Whatever your politics, however you lean, however you feel
about the current administration, this report should open some eyes.

Military losses, 1980 through 2006
(ttp://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces
is, consider the following statistics:
The annual fatalities of military members while actively
serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

1980 .......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
1991 .......... 1,787 (George H W Year)
1992 ........ 1,293 (George H W Year)
1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 ........ 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 ......... . 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 ............. 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ..........1,983 ( C linton Year)
2001 ........... 890(George W Year)
2002 .......... 1,007 (George W Year)
2003 ........ 1,410 (George W Year)
2004 .......... 1,887 (George W Year )
2005 ............. 919 (George W Year)
2006.............. 920 (George W Year)
2007............899 (George W Year)

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,000 deaths
George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was
I. These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the
Middle Ea st are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill
Clinton's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!

It surprised me too, so I went on line to find out what
military actions we were in during Clintons presidency. Here is a web
site I found that lists out those conflicts. (not war)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...thin_the_Unite
d_States#1991-1999
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ithin_the_Unit
ed_States#1991-1999>
And, I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980,
during the reign of
President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there
were 2,392 US military fatalities! I think that these figures indicate
that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the
information on which they report. Of course we all know that they present
only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do
so many of them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so man y of them get their
marching-orders for their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda, and I
believe it is clear it comes from the most powerful Democratic family of
the decade.

Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census, of
Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American
citizens, by Race:
European descent ..........................69.12%
Hispanic ......................................... 12.5%
Black ..............................................12.3 %
Asian ............................................... 3.7%
Native American ..............................1 .0%
Other ..............................................2.6%

Now... here are the fatalities by Race; over the past three
years in Iraqi Freedom:
European descent (white) .............74.31%
Hispanic ..................................... 10.74%
Black ... ....................................... 9.67%
Asian ........................................... 1.81%
Native American ........................... 1.09%
Other ............................................ 0.33%

I was surprised again. . .until it became clear to me that
the point here is that our mainstream media continues to spin these figures
(for political gain). Nothing more.

It's all about politics and some politicians, are now famous
for turning American against American for a vote. (Consider Slick Willy
and his comments just recently made about South Carolina , Jesse Jackson, and
the 'blacks'< BR>voting for the 'black' candidates); or Hillary's stump
speech after her Super Tuesday 'victory' stating that the current administration
does not 'listen' to anyone and continues the war costing precious American
lives. Yes, I might even agree with her, but she should be made to
acknowledge her own husband's administration, without having an actual war, sent
more soldiers to death during his regime-w hile also forcing the military to
release Osama when we actually had him detained.

I hope that during the time between now and November, that
intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin and the
spinners from the leaders; those who seek even more power from those that seek
justice, the dividers from the uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners (yes, Hillary
we are listening) and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who
wants to unite our nation. Who wants to control h ow our money is spent and who
wants our money spent the way we would spend it. Who seeks power and who
seeks justice?
Who spins the facts and who is genuine.

Verified
CRS report for Congress

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
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Not to intrude on the normal bashing - but does anyone have any idea about the 35 Fountain over at AYS - The Service Director @ a L/M store is looking for something like that. He says it's ragged out and rumour has it that it once belonged to a TOPPS member.

Who's got a 32-38 V Bottom w/ twins for less than 100K??
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Originally Posted by boatman22
Copied this from another thread:

Democrats = Dead American Heros!!!!" The Truth Will Set You Free.
Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

Whatever your politics, however you lean, however you feel
about the current administration, this report should open some eyes.

Military losses, 1980 through 2006
(ttp://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces
is, consider the following statistics:
The annual fatalities of military members while actively
serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

1980 .......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
1991 .......... 1,787 (George H W Year)
1992 ........ 1,293 (George H W Year)
1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 ........ 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 ......... . 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 ............. 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ..........1,983 ( C linton Year)
2001 ........... 890(George W Year)
2002 .......... 1,007 (George W Year)
2003 ........ 1,410 (George W Year)
2004 .......... 1,887 (George W Year )
2005 ............. 919 (George W Year)
2006.............. 920 (George W Year)
2007............899 (George W Year)

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,000 deaths
George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was
I. These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the
Middle Ea st are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill
Clinton's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!

It surprised me too, so I went on line to find out what
military actions we were in during Clintons presidency. Here is a web
site I found that lists out those conflicts. (not war)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...thin_the_Unite
d_States#1991-1999
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ithin_the_Unit
ed_States#1991-1999>
And, I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980,
during the reign of
President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there
were 2,392 US military fatalities! I think that these figures indicate
that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the
information on which they report. Of course we all know that they present
only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do
so many of them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so man y of them get their
marching-orders for their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda, and I
believe it is clear it comes from the most powerful Democratic family of
the decade.

Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census, of
Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American
citizens, by Race:
European descent ..........................69.12%
Hispanic ......................................... 12.5%
Black ..............................................12.3 %
Asian ............................................... 3.7%
Native American ..............................1 .0%
Other ..............................................2.6%

Now... here are the fatalities by Race; over the past three
years in Iraqi Freedom:
European descent (white) .............74.31%
Hispanic ..................................... 10.74%
Black ... ....................................... 9.67%
Asian ........................................... 1.81%
Native American ........................... 1.09%
Other ............................................ 0.33%

I was surprised again. . .until it became clear to me that
the point here is that our mainstream media continues to spin these figures
(for political gain). Nothing more.

It's all about politics and some politicians, are now famous
for turning American against American for a vote. (Consider Slick Willy
and his comments just recently made about South Carolina , Jesse Jackson, and
the 'blacks'< BR>voting for the 'black' candidates); or Hillary's stump
speech after her Super Tuesday 'victory' stating that the current administration
does not 'listen' to anyone and continues the war costing precious American
lives. Yes, I might even agree with her, but she should be made to
acknowledge her own husband's administration, without having an actual war, sent
more soldiers to death during his regime-w hile also forcing the military to
release Osama when we actually had him detained.

I hope that during the time between now and November, that
intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin and the
spinners from the leaders; those who seek even more power from those that seek
justice, the dividers from the uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners (yes, Hillary
we are listening) and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who
wants to unite our nation. Who wants to control h ow our money is spent and who
wants our money spent the way we would spend it. Who seeks power and who
seeks justice?
Who spins the facts and who is genuine.

Verified
CRS report for Congress

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
The mass media always wins. Always. That means always. My Dad immigated from a Communist country in 1950 (Hungary). The desciprtions he gives about how the media influenced everything from A to Z is shockingly similar to what the media does here today for those who pay it. The media serves the interests of the most powerful. It never serves the interest of the people.
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Originally Posted by txriverrat2001
Not to intrude on the normal bashing - but does anyone have any idea about the 35 Fountain over at AYS - The Service Director @ a L/M store is looking for something like that. He says it's ragged out and rumour has it that it once belonged to a TOPPS member.

Who's got a 32-38 V Bottom w/ twins for less than 100K??
Riverrat, quit hijacking our thread of hijacks Dont recognize the boat but that doesnt mean anything but that seems cheap for an '03 even if it is a FAJA. It must not include the necklace and medallion. Best thing about AYS, you can low ball them and sometimes it works, they dont care they just have to justify it to the bank. my .02
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Originally Posted by txriverrat2001
Not to intrude on the normal bashing - but does anyone have any idea about the 35 Fountain over at AYS - The Service Director @ a L/M store is looking for something like that. He says it's ragged out and rumour has it that it once belonged to a TOPPS member.

Who's got a 32-38 V Bottom w/ twins for less than 100K??
Joew has a 38 special for mid 60s
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[YOUTUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRQMHEH6rI [/YOUTUBE]

looks like hollywood has found out about the fountain baja merger...

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Originally Posted by txriverrat2001
Not to intrude on the normal bashing - but does anyone have any idea about the 35 Fountain over at AYS - The Service Director @ a L/M store is looking for something like that. He says it's ragged out and rumour has it that it once belonged to a TOPPS member.

Who's got a 32-38 V Bottom w/ twins for less than 100K??
I have a very clean 38 special in the mid 60's. I had a guy in Germany that gave me a deposit but has not called in two weeks. It needs some vinyl graphics and the arch removed. It is very clean and the motors have never been apart.
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Originally Posted by BY U BOY
Joew has a 38 special for mid 60s
I am going to have to give you a commission
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Originally Posted by bigandy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRQMHEH6rI

looks like hollywood has found out about the fountain baja merger...
funny
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