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I just got thru test driving all three and researched all three very in detail. To me the ford was head over heels better than the other two. Talked to dealers and mechanics and was told the 6.7 is a great hard pulling engine. I bought the ford and so far love it.
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2 year old 2011 Ford F-250 6.7, amazing truck. Don't personally know anyone with problems. I would hate to have to work on it though. I can't tell what half of the stuff under the hood is. Would not have a problem owning the Dmax or the Dodge although not a fan of the Dodge interior.
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and I have 106k on our 11 F250.. Its all relative...one radiator change out when I went in for a oil change..and I did not notice a thing even under our strict maintenance program . Been an awesome truck and the best Ford diesel that I have ever owned...I even prefer it over our 96 7.3 Powerstroke......The other thing is I dont really read what these mags put down on paper..its all about the advertising dollars. They all have different results depending on where they are tested to expose the other trucks weakness's...The GM's do have the most wins, but when used in the real world, I feel finish's last when taxed to the max. For driving around as a grocery getter and within close to it's limits it is fine..but nothing like the mags boast about. We do use these trucks, and personally Im not brand loyal. The Dodge dually is a car/truck hauler..The F250 is now a hotshot delivery truck...The F350 (personal truck) and GM 2500 are in the construction business. I say drive them all...but do it back to back, sticker for sticker and see what works best for your application. Jeff
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
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I still don't see how your experience is consistently the opposite of all the reviews out there, and most definitely don't think it's advertising dollars.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
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I am not brand loyal what so ever...and to be brand loyal is foolish. If I were to buy a new diesel, it would be a dodge hands down.
Go sit along any interstate and see which brand the "hot shot" haulers are using the most...it will be a dodge. The combination of power, fuel economy and reliability is simply higher than the Ford or GM.
Pull the hood latches on a big rig and see how many V8 diesels you find... Cat tried a v8 with the 3408...but it didn't last long...fuel economy was terrible.
Most of us guys on this forum don't NEED the best diesel truck on the market, so pick the one that makes you the most happy...as long as its not a FORD
Go sit along any interstate and see which brand the "hot shot" haulers are using the most...it will be a dodge. The combination of power, fuel economy and reliability is simply higher than the Ford or GM.
Pull the hood latches on a big rig and see how many V8 diesels you find... Cat tried a v8 with the 3408...but it didn't last long...fuel economy was terrible.
Most of us guys on this forum don't NEED the best diesel truck on the market, so pick the one that makes you the most happy...as long as its not a FORD
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2 year old 2011 Ford F-250 6.7, amazing truck. Don't personally know anyone with problems. I would hate to have to work on it though. I can't tell what half of the stuff under the hood is. Would not have a problem owning the Dmax or the Dodge although not a fan of the Dodge interior.
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I still don't see how your experience is consistently the opposite of all the reviews out there, and most definitely don't think it's advertising dollars.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
All 3 make great HD trucks now imo you really can't go wrong and just depends on which you prefer, I lean more towards the Fords for that solid feel. The main thing holding Dodge back before was the interior and everything else besides the engine lol. Hopefully the new interior holds up which it should, and the little changes (like new body mounts etc) make the trucks more solid long term.
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I still don't see how your experience is consistently the opposite of all the reviews out there, and most definitely don't think it's advertising dollars.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
The Dodge/Ford are new trucks w/ new interiors, so I grant they have nice ones. The GM interior/exterior is basically from 2006/2007 so it is a handicap. The new trucks launch next year w/ new exterior/interior but the same bad ass powertrain/frame, I don't see what Ford will have up their sleeve to keep up then. They already upped the power on the 6.7 and still can't beat the 6.6.
The Ford interiors..even from 06 I feel have been slightly nicer..less rattles, better materials, larger knobs for the guys in areas that wear gloves in the winter time, better nav and conviences...etc...In 11 Ford really did a great job in revamping the new interiors.....The frames in the GMs since 11 have been stiffened so much that the articulation when going through a simple ditch with a trailer causes the wheels to come off the ground and loose traction. Yes I will agree..our 11 gmc2500 is closer in handling to a 1/2 ton on steriods...but when used day in and day out, with a load..and not for a article in a magazine..it gets old...too tight is not what you want. You mentioned all the reviews where the Gm has been favored...I did mention that the majority of the rewiews were in favor of the GM truck..but lets break it down..and Im just comparing job 2 and 3trucks. The Ford under load is slightly quicker in a 1/4...How many people jack rabbit there trucks from start to finish in the real world..Not under load the GM is quicker, and better so per the article where all of them are in the Colorado area where the air is thin, and GM's turbo is more effecient...in the real world down here in the South..the heat..they are about dead even when they hit about 75mph...The Ford stops faster with the exception of this article. Has the nicest interior, has the worst exhaust brake, controls the load better with the stability control system, and Im sure there is more..but Its not worth arguing over it. Im just simpling trying to convey..and this is with the new 6.7..Ford has done a great job with this motor. The tranny could shift possibly harder into gear to get the power to the ground better vs the Allison which gets her done..but you feel it..its all give and take..If GM in 14 has the better truck..Im in..Jeff..
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The interior in my Dodge truck is fine and the cummins with the 6 speed manual gets great milage.
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