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Remember Ford always had the 60k warranty as far as I know. Secondly the 5.0 is new and unproven as well if you want to look at it that way. Also you do have 5 years/ 60k for something to go wrong. I have not heard of anybody having problems. I got 15k on mine no issue and two buddies with about the same and no issue. What I have seen is issues with the tranny, but that tranny is in all of the trucks and really arent issues just people not liking how the 6spd operates.
Ill admit I am an eco boost fist pumper but if you dont tow the MPG over the 5.0 is only mariginal but if your going to keep it a long time it will make up for the almost 1000 bucks the eco cost over the 5.0.
In the end who keeps vehicles over 100k anymore, to me I dont really care to keep a vehicle out of warranty anymore. I carry enough equity in my trucks that my payments are low, and I always have a reliable vehicle with no maint cost. The eco isnt entirely new the base 3.5l is just about in every other ford car out there.
Ill admit I am an eco boost fist pumper but if you dont tow the MPG over the 5.0 is only mariginal but if your going to keep it a long time it will make up for the almost 1000 bucks the eco cost over the 5.0.
In the end who keeps vehicles over 100k anymore, to me I dont really care to keep a vehicle out of warranty anymore. I carry enough equity in my trucks that my payments are low, and I always have a reliable vehicle with no maint cost. The eco isnt entirely new the base 3.5l is just about in every other ford car out there.
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You're contradicting yourself. First you say who keeps their vehicles over 100,000 miles these days and then you say you don't disagree that people of keeping their vehicles for closer to 10 years. I'm confused.
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What is considered major?
The design life of the turbos are 150,000 miles. I've heard prices from $2500 up to $4000 per turbo, any one able to verify this? 15K miles a year average means it would be a 10 year old truck- seems like $5000-$8000 would be quite a larger percentage of its value at that time, no?
The design life of the turbos are 150,000 miles. I've heard prices from $2500 up to $4000 per turbo, any one able to verify this? 15K miles a year average means it would be a 10 year old truck- seems like $5000-$8000 would be quite a larger percentage of its value at that time, no?
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Pretty much the whole of the EB rotating assembly is forged with 6 bolt/ side bolted mains.
The thing only used 1 tooth out of the range of available teeth of timing chain tightening over the whole Ford endurance test.
Direct injection could get hinkey but diesels have been solid in this area quite a while.
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I have yet to see or get a clear answer on the difference between the two tow packages other than the EB Controller and the Big Mirrors.
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1. Higher rated trailer hitch
2. Rear ride height is 1 mm higher (Different spring rate? I'm not sure of the reason)
3. 20:1 steering ratio, trucks without this package get a 17:1 ratio
4. Integrated Trailer-Brake Controller (can be added to any F-150 with trailer tow package)
More rows of radiator oil cooler and trans cooler- as well.
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The turbos are better than I thought looks to be about 800 bucks for the right hand side and 700 for the left hand side. Assuming labor your probably talking 2500-3 grand to replace them both assuming its just the turbo. But you are right at 150k miles you have look at the value of a vehicle that is probably 8-10 years old and at that point probably worth 10 grand on a good day.
The turbos are better than I thought looks to be about 800 bucks for the right hand side and 700 for the left hand side. Assuming labor your probably talking 2500-3 grand to replace them both assuming its just the turbo. But you are right at 150k miles you have look at the value of a vehicle that is probably 8-10 years old and at that point probably worth 10 grand on a good day.
Only $6900 for a new Ecoboost engine, much less than the $12K-$14K I was told as well. Again, maybe that price included labor and I misinterpreted the information as it was given to me.
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It doesn't matter if people keep their vehicles over 100,000 miles these days or not. Bottom line is if you spend this kind of money on a vehicle, it should last more than 100,000 miles with normal driving conditions and normal maintianence. I'll use the example of our Suburban. After spending the amount of money we did on the Suburban, we shouldn't have to put new rings and pistons in it at 50,000 miles. It doesn't matter if we plan on keeping it over 100,000 miles or not. We're spending a lot of money for your product, at least make sure it's a decent product.
But at 50k miles wasnt that under warranty.?
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uncle dave spelled it out pretty well, even though those things he listed might make you wonder how it does that, because mirrors dont add weight. But from what I gather the rear bumper is what adds the weight, really where the receiver connects to is stronger.
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Sorry, if you read what I said, im not argueing the studies, but what I am saying is I wonder what sample size they used? As I type this im looking outside at the office and I would have to say the average vehicle is probably no older then 5-6 years as I said. Again a small sample size, but drive down the road once and you do not have a lot of 10 year old bombers our there. Thats why I wonder if they took old people and young people in this study as it may affect the overall avearge.