Notices

New F350 or F450

Thread Tools
 
Old 06-28-2013, 06:53 PM
  #1  
Registered
VIP Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gallatin, TN
Posts: 937
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default New F350 or F450

I am stuck... I am thinking of buying a new 350/450 and the only basic difference is the rear end ratio which is 3.73 vs. 4.30. I am pulling a 40RP on an aluminum Myco so loaded maybe 15K. I am planning on putting a leveling / lift on the truck with 22.5's and wondered if the 3.73 gear would be enough. All things being equal does the mileage difference make up for giving up the gear ratio. I usually pull to poker runs 4-5 times a year and I run 75-78 mph so has anyone done the bigger wheels on a 350 and been happy with the pulling capability.
gofastlvr is offline  
Old 06-28-2013, 08:17 PM
  #2  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Charleston, il
Posts: 873
Received 46 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

The 450 will turn much tighter if that matters
TylerBurich is offline  
Old 06-30-2013, 04:05 PM
  #3  
Forum Regulator
VIP Member
 
Sydwayz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 23,918
Received 1,278 Likes on 559 Posts
Default

Increasing tire size in the range you are talking generally/approximately costs you one gear ratio. So, if you go a size bigger on tires with the 4.30; you will be back to roughly a 4.10.

IMHO with that load, I would go with the 450 and the 4.30 gear.
Sydwayz is offline  
Old 06-30-2013, 10:22 PM
  #4  
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Indy, St. Louis, LOTO
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

What kind of mods will you do to increase power? If you are going to do things to make it a beast, you might be happy enough with the 3.73 ratio in the F350. How strong is the ford transmission nowadays anyway? Is a 4.10 ratio available? The F450 at 78 mph is going to be turning some big R's.
Chart is offline  
Old 06-30-2013, 11:10 PM
  #5  
Registered
 
DirtyMoney's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Murrayville, GA
Posts: 3,025
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

450's now come with 17's the same as the 350. I am not sure of the differences as well.
DirtyMoney is offline  
Old 07-01-2013, 07:45 AM
  #6  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
carter38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Oklahoma/GLOC
Posts: 2,491
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

I have an 11 450 and couldn't be happier. The turning is awesome over the 350 and with the new 6 speed tranny R's are not that big of an issue they really won't be with 22.5's.
carter38 is offline  
Old 07-01-2013, 12:30 PM
  #7  
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Indy, St. Louis, LOTO
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by carter38
I have an 11 450 and couldn't be happier. The turning is awesome over the 350 and with the new 6 speed tranny R's are not that big of an issue they really won't be with 22.5's.
Good to know. What R's do you turn at highway speeds?
Chart is offline  
Old 07-01-2013, 01:06 PM
  #8  
Registered
VIP Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gallatin, TN
Posts: 937
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

really don't want to do any engine mods because of warranty and the thing turns 800+ ft/lbs of torque already. That's as much as my C7 in my F650 now and its an animal so all I really want to do is add wheels but who know? May end up with a Sport Chassis before I get done
gofastlvr is offline  
Old 07-01-2013, 02:02 PM
  #9  
Registered
 
44MTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: E-Dock
Posts: 3,133
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

F350, I pulled a 44MTI with 08 F450 which it pulled great but the mileage was horrible because of the gear ratio and RPM's. I now have a GMC 350, and it pull almost the same but twice the mileage. The newer trucks are rated higher than they were in 08 and it shows.
Also I am not a Ford guy but I don't think the new Ford 450's have the turning ratius of the older ones which sux because I do miss that.
44MTI is offline  
Old 07-01-2013, 02:34 PM
  #10  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
carter38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Oklahoma/GLOC
Posts: 2,491
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 44MTI
F350, I pulled a 44MTI with 08 F450 which it pulled great but the mileage was horrible because of the gear ratio and RPM's. I now have a GMC 350, and it pull almost the same but twice the mileage. The newer trucks are rated higher than they were in 08 and it shows.
Also I am not a Ford guy but I don't think the new Ford 450's have the turning ratius of the older ones which sux because I do miss that.
I had the 08 450 and now the 11 the new one will still out turn a 350 but I do have to agree I think the 08 turned sharper. I was blown aways the first time I drove the 08 coming from a 250 and going to a 450 that thing would out turn it by a long shot.
carter38 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.