Bought engines today VV
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Hey VV,I am out getting an update,broken valve spring,cant wait to help you get that thing dialed in,call me and I am there and I will bring all of the nessassary,well you know .talk to you soon,Bill
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Now Now Peter
I am not the one who told someone how to run a boat. You seem to know everything about everything!!!!! That being said, why would you tell some one what applies to a "F"ountain will apply to thier Formula????? Two totally different boats with different handling characteristics?!?!?!?
I am not the one who told someone how to run a boat. You seem to know everything about everything!!!!! That being said, why would you tell some one what applies to a "F"ountain will apply to thier Formula????? Two totally different boats with different handling characteristics?!?!?!?
I did not tell anyone how to run their boat, simply responded to his inquiry about info relating to step bottom boats. Mentioned the info on the Fountain site would be worth the look. Take the time to run both the Fountain 35 as well as the Formula 353 and you will notice that they are similiar in some of their handling characteristics. Take the time to go thru the info on the Fountain site and you may see that some of the general info there would cross over to many boats of similiar design. Obviously I have a fair amount of time in both the single and twin step 35 Fountains, but I also have spent a fair amount of time in the Formula 353. I feel the Fountain is more stable and tracks better at speed, but that's my opinion, and it's based on having run both boats. You should try both and let us know what your opinion is, that sharing info deal that notda1 was talking about.
As far as the Tres School, never taken the deal. But I would if there was more emphasis put into the "on water" portion of the classes. His base course has no "on water" instruction, the upgraded course has a few hours of the "on water" instruction, I wonder just how much time one gets behind the wheel being shown the finer points. Tres himself lumps both high speed Vees and Cats into the same course, wonder where the similiar handling comes into play there. Maybe it's that doing stupid chit can get you into trouble no mater what the boat or hull design is. Maybe it's that in fact learning how to safely and properly set up and run a boat at speed does have some cross over between designs, You think?
One more thing here, if you are chasing my posts you surely must have noticed that I do not offer any advice to the guys running the 40+ foot Vees and Cats. I would be out of my element there, though the 41 Velocity is one that I have been behind the wheel for a Poker Run and a few of the PRA Speed Runs, might make a comment or two on that one. Only up to the 100-105 mph range, beyond that I would not be able to make an intelligent or well founded comment.
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Personally, I don't think going to a class on high performance boats would do me any good. It may help someone that just bought a speed boat to learn the basic stuff. I think the only way to learn is a lot of seat time and patience. I could take a class on Nascar driving but would not qualify me to be in a race. I believe in learning all you can by experience not a book class. I think the school gives some people more confidence to screw up because they read a book. Common sence go's a lot futher in my book. You don't learn to run untill after you learn to crawl, doesn't take a manuel and a $5000.00 coarse to figure it out. I say spend your money on gas and and seat time and use common sence. I'm sure Tres means well with his school, but I would bet he didn't get where he is today by reading a book, he learned by observing others and experence behind the wheel. You can't get that anywhere in a one week class.
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Ragged Edge,
The OSO subscribers have notified me of a manditory name change.
I have to give up Vicious22 and go with huggybear22........they wanted to free up Vicious for you.
peace love and flowers to all. Even the hostile beak boaters
The OSO subscribers have notified me of a manditory name change.
I have to give up Vicious22 and go with huggybear22........they wanted to free up Vicious for you.
peace love and flowers to all. Even the hostile beak boaters
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320 update, waiting on engines to arrive and get them on the dyno then the rigging process. Still waiting on the extension boxes, sent them out for re-paint they had a few scratches form storage. Imco HD gimals and helmets should arrive by the first of next week, The helmets are on back order. I have everything else and excited to get her going but not a good time of year to get things done in a hurry since everyone is so busy this time of year.
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To a point I agree that seat time is the best teacher. A basic understanding of the does and donts is valuable as well, no matter how one gets this info. These courses would likely benefit any of us, but like I said before the general rules carry across the board. Common sense is the key here, and the age old saying "A man needs to know his limitations".