Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Owners Forum > Velocity
Bad Memorial day >

Bad Memorial day

Notices

Bad Memorial day

Thread Tools
 
Old 05-27-2009, 11:50 AM
  #11  
Registered
 
BajaIceBreaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Dude, talk to a machine shop. They may be able to sleeve that block.... save you about $2500.
BajaIceBreaker is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 12:36 PM
  #12  
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bradenton Florida
Posts: 5,927
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Velocity Vector
You can quickly identify it at the upper waterpump bolts. On a shorty, the distance from the upper waterpump bolt to the deck of the cylinders will by ~0.200", and the tall deck is ~0.600", The difference is 0.400"

The tall motors have longer rods, which produce more torque - not noted for revs. Pushrods are also longer.

I don't think the 454 was ever offered in a tall deck - the 366 and the 427 were offered both ways, but I think the 454 and all later Mark IV blocks are all short deck, but not sure.
VV,,,,,the 454 was offered as a talldeck ( 454 TRUCK BLOCK )

Is exactly what he has ,,,and there the only ones with the oiltube in front !!!!! And it is a Gen IV !!!!!!
DareDevil is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 12:44 PM
  #13  
VIP Member
VIP Member
 
Pat McPherson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ivoryton, CT
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Sorry about your engine.
I would not suggest spending the $$ for another tall deck 454 block. You can likely use your stroker crank in a short deck 454 or 502 block with the right combo of rods and pistons.
If not, I'd suggest buying an assembled 502 shortblock and use your heads.
You will need a new intake with a short deck block but that can be had for under $200.
__________________
Patrick
Pat McPherson is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 01:16 PM
  #14  
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Marietta, Ga.
Posts: 777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I feel your pain!! I trashed a motor last month!!

Like mentioned above, if the rest of the block checks out ok, you can have it sleeved. If it is done right, it will last!!!!

Good luck!!
DKerns is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 01:18 PM
  #15  
Crazy Energy
Platinum Member
 
Velocity Vector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oklahoma God's country no one else wants it.
Posts: 4,334
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by daredevil
VV,,,,,the 454 was offered as a talldeck ( 454 TRUCK BLOCK )

Is exactly what he has ,,,and there the only ones with the oiltube in front !!!!! And it is a Gen IV !!!!!!
I thought the 454 tall deck blocks were Bowtie and Gen V but with the Gen IV blocks were either 427 or 366 truck engines. Maybe if he posted the casting numbers we could sort this out.

Last edited by Velocity Vector; 05-27-2009 at 01:26 PM.
Velocity Vector is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 02:39 PM
  #16  
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bradenton Florida
Posts: 5,927
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Velocity Vector
I thought the 454 tall deck blocks were Bowtie and Gen V but with the Gen IV blocks were either 427 or 366 truck engines. Maybe if he posted the casting numbers we could sort this out.
They are BOWTIE <<<,,,but Gen IV !!!
DareDevil is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 02:45 PM
  #17  
Registered
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lake Conroe, TX.
Posts: 14,914
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The tall deck engines are awesome for reliability. They allowed the big trucks to use a taller piston so that they could add rings, and change the rod angle so they were better suited to running down the highway at high rpms for thousands of miles. Some of thise engines would go 250000 plus miles in a dump truck truning 3500-4000 shifting gears all day long.

Perfect for the marine world, just hard to find. If I were going to spend that much cash, I would just switch over to a tall deck aftermarket block. Then yo ucould have a tall deck 502 or whatever bore yo uwanted engine and really have a beast. Crank and rods would be the same. You are all ready buying pistons and a block, and the rest of the stuff goes on top. There might even be a taller piston out there somewhere.

Seriously good way to build an engine. Crank in the tall deck 454's etc were still 4".
jeff1000man is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 03:13 PM
  #18  
VIP Member
VIP Member
 
Pat McPherson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ivoryton, CT
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jeff1000man

Seriously good way to build an engine. Crank in the tall deck 454's etc were still 4".
If this is the case, there is nothing I'd reuse from the blown shortblock. I'd build or buy a 502.
If you have the extra cash to build a tall deck then a 540.
The boat is for sale though so...
__________________
Patrick
Pat McPherson is offline  
Old 05-30-2009, 12:19 PM
  #19  
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

sell your blown motors parts and buy a new or newer take out i,ve had a lot of boats rebuilding a marine motor is hard because the load on the motor and the high rpm if it,s not perfect the motors keep shaking apart you might get a couple of runs but you,ll allways be working on it
REDS32 is offline  
Old 05-30-2009, 05:54 PM
  #20  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAMARQUE TX
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Casting Number

The casting number is 14044807 also I have the numbers off of the cam and the pistons if anyone could help me figure out what they are the numbers on the cam are CR13H000036 , 200486, AND 13-18-00 the number on the piston is 6063AS the crank is a Lunati and the numbers on it are BB421,L1722D6, 4.375, 2575GM
jab052783 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.